UFC Listens to the fans

[Hrock]

The UFC has proven again that they listen to the fans....First it was bringing in Sherk, Babalu and Horn, Then it was Penn and Tito and the coaches for season 3 of TUF, and then the return of the lightweights.

.....Now on the season premere of TUF they proove it again, everything we complain about has been changed, the challenges, the advertising (maybe), the fighters match thier own weight class, they even put in footage after the fight so the viewer couldnt tell by looking at the clock how long the fight was going to be. and most of all, the overall format. I remember hearing many comments about how they should go to a tourny format so that guys don't get a free pass, and they made the change.

Now lets hope this Rampage rumor is true (I believe it is) and is announced before or at UFC 59.

So hats off to the UFC for giving the fans what they want...Round of applause!

P.S. Next, I want to see Lindland and Sallevery back in the UFC pronto

[tom_dot_com]

I didnt' know any fans wanted to see Lindland back.

[Hrock]

........I do

[OogDiddyBoog]

UFC 61 - Lindland vs. Sallevery: "LAY & PRAY" Get your tickets today!

[sportsgenius86]

UFC 61 - Lindland vs. Sallevery: "LAY & PRAY" Get your tickets today!


a) theres a thread for this

b) lindland vs. ANYONE could have that title

[Hrock]

I agree 100% but I want to see Franklin fight the best....The MW division is lacking right now.

and I don't consider Sallevery boring at all.

[landhawk]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

[Fallen Angel X]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

see the ufc pays its fighters thread
fact is the UFC has a bunch of business gurus running the ship and granted the fighters need to be paiid more. but from a pure business view the ufc is doin great

[Hrock]

I'm starting to remember why I rarely come here anymore.....They should have Big red letters on the front page that says PRIDE FANS ONLY ! fans of any other org will be GUNNED DOWN !

[abudahbi]

maybe, i guess its important to highlight the positive. But really, how bout um, lets see, providing actual world class competition on their PPV cards? And not a bunch of ex-TUF contestants. The UFC is starting to look like your average run of the mill King of the Cage or Hook N Shoot. Its like, lets throw in a few quality fighters to headline the card, and we'll just continue to fill the rest up with Dana White's persona little army of TUF bitches and the Miletich camp. Why is Sylvia getting a rematch with Arlovski? Joke. Pay these people some real money, and see what real cash they can make when they can attract WORLD CLASS Chmpions a la Pride. You mean to tell me Dreamstage is the only corporation that can put together a legitimate Olympics of MMA fighting? The UFC has come a long way, and kudos, but time to stop being cheap asses and settling for b level talent and Xyence contracts...think big, get some real fighter, and watch the cash roll in. Unfortunately, Vegas probably has the Zuffa bros. by the balls for helping them make it to the big time. But Mandalay Bay cannot hold 70,000 like the Tokyodome can.

[Loot]

I like the changes to TUF3. They have essentially made the show a tournament, like a minor league GP.

I am not sure how the tourny will play out, with the winning team getting to make the next fight. It could be a slaughterfest. However, they got rid of the challenges. My guess is that they were able to do this because of all of the drama between Ortiz and Shamrock. They no longer neeed any drama from the contestants in challenges.

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

Joe Rogan has some moments of complete mental lapses. He does get on my nerves as well at times, but he is still the best color man. At least he actually explains whats going on and not just he should "kick him de leever." The UFC is certainly dropping the ball with how they are using TUF. They should not be signing every fighter to contracts. They are misusing the event, but that is what is bringing in new fans. TUF cans sell like the circus freaks sell in Pride. The money situation is totally inexcusable. These guys should certainly be getting paid more than what they are being paid. Dana White is a jackass who does a lot of stupid stuff. I dont disgree there, but he has done a hell of a lot of good for the UFC. Overall he is doing a good job. The UFC is doing the wrong

[Hrock]

You're a moron if you think UFC is KOTC level, C'mon......So maybe they aren't Pride but they have some great, top level A class fighters (fact)......What kind of fan are you if you think the second best org on the planet sucks.....this blows my mind.

[Hrock]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

So, Fire Rogan, fire Dana, and cancel TUF.....Brilliant concept you have there why havn't they hired you yet.

[abudahbi]

You're a moron if you think UFC is KOTC level, C'mon......So they aren't Pride but the have some great fighters......What kind of fan are you if you think the second best org on the planet sucks.....this blows my mind.
seconda best organization on the planet? Youre a moron if you think THIS is true. But anyway...youre right, UFC is defintely NOT KOTC level, but last night's UFN sure looked pretty compatible wouldnt u agree? Im just saying UFC is getting a little too comfrotable with their big revenues and not doing enough to get world class talent. Theyre basically trying to make money off a bunch of dumb kids who are B level talent, and try to make their organization look world class just becuase they have a few good champions. I mean, dude, seriously, take a look at the latest UFC rankings. I mean "Chris Leben has become a force in the UFC middleweight division" I heard Mike GOldberg say last night. Are you kidding. The sad thing is, he's right, and its illustrative of how watered down the UFC has become. Remember the days of Pedro Rizzo vs Josh Bartnett? Coleman vs Smith? Gracie vs Shamrock? Silva vs Belfort? When was the last time you REALLY, I mean REALLY got excited about a UFC PPV card. Maybe Couture Lidell, I admit that was a fun card actually. Now, Im an MMA junkie just like all of you, and I get excited to watch any MMA, but relatively speaking, Ive seen more netertaining cards on Icon's Superbrawl lately than on UFC. I mean Hughes vs old ass Gracie? We're supposed to get excited about that? Kiss my ass...any Pride champion would mop the floor with Dana's so called champions....but ok, its all we got in the USA, and I enjot it, dont get me wrong. All Im asking is to please, stop filling up PPV cards with ex-TIUF fighters, no one cares, theres only a few guys worthy of that, and no one wants to see a shamrock-ortiz rematch. who the hell cares, to see shamrock get his face grounded and pounded again and again and again?

[Hrock]

Nobody is denying that there are things that could be fixed.....I started this thread to show some appreciation for some of the things they have done right, and you decided, "Hey I think I'll hijack this thing and see what a rise I can get out of it".
Iknow people like you, you are a complainer by nature. UFC could do everything you ask for and you will find something new to bitch about.

[Loot]

Some people are so out of touch with reality they should be examined.

1) The UFC is easily the second best MMA organization on the planet. I would like to see someone argue for another organization other than Pride being better.

2) Last nights show sucked, and everyone seems to want to make a bunch of decisions based off of it. Did people not see the card? Did we expect a start studded display of MMA talent from Keith Jardine, Bonnar, Hogar, Stevenson, Neer, etc?......Christ folks....a little saying we have in my profession is "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." Look at their careers. How many great or extremely exciting fights have these guys put on COMBINED? 2-3?

Last nights show was an average KOTC level show. People seemed to expect a PPV. If you did, well, you were ignorant. I am not defending the show by any means because it was boring, but some people are taking their whining to extremes...

Listening to fans? They have listened to fans, maybe not hardcore fans who know all about the history of the UFC and Pride, but they are listening to their fans. The casual fan our numbers the hardcore fan of the UFC....

People need to chill out and put things in perspective.

[abudahbi]

So, Fire Rogan, fire Dana, and cancel TUF.....Brilliant concept you have there why havn't they hired you yet.

Now thats funny HRock...I like that. Youre right. Doesnt make sense to cancel TUF, or fire Dana White. Now, Joe Rogan...tsk tsk...so annoying...so annoying...knowledgeable, yes, I totally appreciate his commentary. Love it. Actually learned a couple things from him over the years. And I hope he fights Wesley Snipes but it'll never happen. Snipes knows he'll get grounded and pounded and probably choked out if he tries any of his kung fu BS. But theres gotta be someone out there just as knowledgeable and less annoying, like um, well, yours truly!! Yeah!! They should have pounced on Bas Rutten when he quit Pride temporarily and left. Wouldve been awesome. And I do like the new TUF format, very nice. And come on, theres nothing to watch on television these days. You kidding me? Cancel TUF? No way...what better way to fall asleep on Monday nights than to some MMA? Now if they really wanna improve the show...uh, stop showing what freakin morons these guys are when theyre drunk..no one cares, and they just expose themselves for the stupid, no charisma, muscle heads most of them are. Theres a reason reality fight shows arent mainstream,and its not just the violnce. Simply put, fighters are generally good respectful, moral hard workiung people, or they are stupid muscleheads. Either way, it doesnt make for good televsion. Instead, focus more on the training, stop trying to make a soap opera out of it, and lets just see what we came to see: FIGHTS

[abudahbi]

Hey Loot are you a psychologist? Cause I am, and heres another saying in my business...if at first you dont succeed, try Ritalin...no Im just kidding. But um, no, I dont need to have my head examined. I mean I guess it wouldnt hurt, I think that is a bit of the ol hyperbola there...I guess it depends what we are talking about, and I guess when it comes to Pride style MMA, yes, UFC takes the Silver Medal no doubt...when I heard the "second best organization in the world" I immediately thought of K-1 becuase they have added MMA rules to their Heros events over the last few yrs, and some would say K-1 is more entertaining than UFC. But you know, ok, sure, UFC is second best. And HRock...I know people like YOU...you love to form opinions of people based on two threads in an MMA forum...what do you think about THAT ...I think if you knew me you will find that I am not a complainer...but that I was simply defending my position, that in this case, the UFC appears to be deteriorating in their quality of fighters and consequently, their level of action. I realize though, that you have a point. There is defintely more good than bad with the UFC. Absolutely...I am a fan, yes. I was simply pointing out that the uFC is placing a bit too much emphasis on their minor leaguers and trying to hype them up to be world class fighters. No. This why the Loot man is right. I do not expect much from free tv and a bunch of minor leaguers. And you dont hear me complaining about Pride do you? In fact, as a fan of the UFC, as an American consumer...I wanna see them do just as well, is that so much to ask? WHy should they continue to be the leader in combat sports? WHy cant the UFC shoot for the stars? Maybe theyre on their way, but it sure doesnt look like it. And FYI...Pride is shown on free television in Japan...so free television doesnt need to be an excuse for ****ty fight cards.

[Hrock]

I was simply pointing out that the uFC is placing a bit too much emphasis on their minor leaguers and trying to hype them up to be world class fighters. No. .

do you expect them to say--- "and in the blue corner, this man is an expert in competitive eating, he stands 5 feet 11 inches tall and bareley trains at all, fighting for team scuzzlebut out of Muskogie Oklahoma, please welcome, JOSH NEEEEER !"

[Roundhouse]

Hrock,
I totally agree with your analysys. Zuffa has been doing a great job listening to what "we" the fans wants lately. The improvements to TUF were exactly what everyone's been asking for. As for bringing in the extra talent (Tito, BJ, hopefully Rampage) it's also been something we've been asking for.

I love Pride and how they run their business. But for the life of me, I don't understand why so many people around here think that you can't enjoy the UFC if you truly like Pride. I've got a message for those individuals...

PRIDE IS NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND!!!

It's ok to like the UFC too. I'm an MMA fan and can't get enough of either. Is Pride the top organization in the world today? Yes, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Does that mean I need to pick apart the UFC and everything they do? No.
They are trying to bring MMA to the mainstream like it is in Japan, and when they reach those lofty levels they may be in a position to match pride's roster and theatrics. Until that day, I'm going to continue to enjoy the product we do have in North America.
Give credit were credit is due. The UFC has been listening to the fan feedback and delivering on many of our requests.

[Fallen Angel X]

Hrock,
I totally agree with your analysys. Zuffa has been doing a great job listening to what "we" the fans wants lately. The improvements to TUF were exactly what everyone's been asking for. As for bringing in the extra talent (Tito, BJ, hopefully Rampage) it's also been something we've been asking for.

I love Pride and how they run their business. But for the life of me, I don't understand why so many people around here think that you can't enjoy the UFC if you truly like Pride. I've got a message for those individuals...

PRIDE IS NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND!!!

It's ok to like the UFC too. I'm an MMA fan and can't get enough of either. Is Pride the top organization in the world today? Yes, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Does that mean I need to pick apart the UFC and everything they do? No.
They are trying to bring MMA to the mainstream like it is in Japan, and when they reach those lofty levels they may be in a position to match pride's roster and theatrics. Until that day, I'm going to continue to enjoy the product we do have in North America.
Give credit were credit is due. The UFC has been listening to the fan feedback and delivering on many of our requests.

i couldnt have said it any better myself, the guys at zuffa arent dumb u know. there will be a day where ufc can rival pride. but to compare them to pride now is like comparing the Plaza hotel to the holiday inn, you just cant compare the 2 as of yet. one day we may be able to. for now its just not fair to the ufc i think

[Hrock]

I think they are listening to the hardcore and casual fans....we just want the world in a golden cup and they cant give all of it yet. I think they read some of the complaints
of TUF guys being on big event cards and answered the call by putting them all on an UFN (wich is a format I like). there wher some good fights on the card, we just didn't see them, Its just tough luck.

[Loot]

we just want the world in a golden cup and they cant give all of it yet.

Agreed....

[BruceLee]

PRIDE IS NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND!!!

It's ok to like the UFC too. I'm an MMA fan and can't get enough of either. Is Pride the top organization in the world today? Yes, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Does that mean I need to pick apart the UFC and everything they do? No.
They are trying to bring MMA to the mainstream like it is in Japan, and when they reach those lofty levels they may be in a position to match pride's roster and theatrics. Until that day, I'm going to continue to enjoy the product we do have in North America.
Give credit were credit is due. The UFC has been listening to the fan feedback and delivering on many of our requests.

Yes, I enjoy having many girlfriends. It is better than just one.

I still believe that the WWE will step in (if it already hasn't bought the UFC), and that is when MMA will explode in America and rival Pride FC and K-1. The infrastructure is already in place with the WWE PLUS Pride had the wrestling Infrastructure from New Japan, if I'm not mistaken.

[Fallen Angel X]

Yes, I enjoy having many girlfriends. It is better than just one.

I still believe that the WWE will step in (if it already hasn't bought the UFC), and that is when MMA will explode in America and rival Pride FC and K-1. The infrastructure is already in place with the WWE PLUS Pride had the wrestling Infrastructure from New Japan, if I'm not mistaken.

i never thought of it that way u know

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

I dont not like at all what Pride or the UFC is doing. I will be choosing PPVs on each basis. I want to see the upcoming UFC for sure, I know I wont rent the opening round of Pride, one good fight on the card. Im sick of the GP events, but Ill rent the Bushido.

[Loot]

Yes, I enjoy having many girlfriends. It is better than just one.

I still believe that the WWE will step in (if it already hasn't bought the UFC), and that is when MMA will explode in America and rival Pride FC and K-1. The infrastructure is already in place with the WWE PLUS Pride had the wrestling Infrastructure from New Japan, if I'm not mistaken.

I completely disagree, but only because I know Bruce can't get any women. j/k

[robbypark]

one good fight on the card. Im sick of the GP events, but Ill rent the Bushido.

With only three fights announced how do you know that there is only one good fight on the card? There are still at least 5 more fights to be announced and with guys like Silva, Hunt, Nog, etc confirmed to be in the GP, I'm sure there will be some other tremendous fights on the card. The card looks like it's going to be great.

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

With only three fights announced how do you know that there is only one good fight on the card? There are still at least 5 more fights to be announced and with guys like Silva, Hunt, Nog, etc confirmed to be in the GP, I'm sure there will be some other tremendous fights on the card. The card looks like it's going to be great.

Yeah, they are going to have a lot of great fighers, I dont deny that. Im not interested though in seeing mismatchs. The first rounds are always mismatchs. Hunt/Ogawa, Nog/Sentoryu, Silva/Sik, etc. Thats OK, Ill pass. I could watch crap fights for free on TUF. Like I said, with all the fighters and money Pride has, they dont need to be making these types of match ups. Im not into the spectacle event.

[abudahbi]

I agree, the first round of the open tournament should be pretty good, I mean how can it not? Only 3 fights announced...and out of all the top fighters in the world, u think it wont be worth it to watch 8 of the top fighters all in one card? Fedor and his bro, Wanderlei, Noguera, Mark Hunt, Mirko, should be pretty cool, and lot of good fights. Of course, everyones pick is Fedor, the peoples champ. But watch out for um, well lets see, uh...yeah...hmm...ok, never mind, looks like Fedor's gonna clean house once again...only thing to stop him is another gash. I heard Coleman's gonna be in it also. Poor guy...he thinks hes still got it just cause Shogun broke his freakin arm...

[Roundhouse]

Yeah, they are going to have a lot of great fighers, I dont deny that. Im not interested though in seeing mismatchs. The first rounds are always mismatchs. Hunt/Ogawa, Nog/Sentoryu, Silva/Sik, etc. Thats OK, Ill pass. I could watch crap fights for free on TUF. Like I said, with all the fighters and money Pride has, they dont need to be making these types of match ups. Im not into the spectacle event.

I don't think you'll see too many mismatches in the 1st round. After the '04 GP it was almost a given that Mirko would get a gimme match at least in the first round. I'd bet Mirko is still the biggest non-japanese draw in Pride. Yoshida's also a guy Pride has a vested interest in making the next round.

As for the Barnett/Aleks fight? That's definitely not a mismatch. I'm actually pretty amped to see that fight. Both of these guys are clearly top 10 HW's and this fight will help make the pecking order a little more clear.

Regardless, with so many more terrific fighters rumoured to be participating it's hard to see how they'll be any more mismatchs.

[Iron Maiden]

I thought the first TUF 3 episode was good. Again I want to point out I could care less about the contest or who the fighters are. However,I automatically am rooting for the deaf guy to win because I like to see people with disabilities overcome obstacles and suceed.

The show is all about Tito and Shamrock for me. That rivalry is just fun to watch,and it makes the show more enjoyable to watch. Again I am disgusted with the American fighters on the show,for the most part. What shall we do first? Let make fun of the British and New Zealand guys accents!! CLASSY!!

What are we back in junior high school again pointing fingers and saying "hahaha! he talks different than us!!!"

Grow the **** up you stupid kids.

About the UFC and the state of the company right now. You cannot deny what Dana White has done for the UFC. I can't stand the guy,I hate what the UFC has become,but as far as making the UFC succesful,Dana has done just that. Sadly,because this is an American organization,you have to arrange the show around the American audience,and what you see in the typical UFC show is exactly what that is,appealing to the American audience.

I could deal with all of that if they had better fighters. Paying $34.95 to see GSP or AA fight is just not something I'm prepared to do anymore. I'll just read play by plays and watch the fight at a later date. If I'm hurting the UFC by doing it,so be it,when they start getting good fighters and better cards I'll start shelling out for the ppv's again.

Until then,I'll go buy a couple CD's instead of paying 35 bucks for ****.

[Vanno]

I don't think they were making fun; they just didn't know what the hell they were saying. Anyway, I laughed my ass off when Bisping said tomfoolery, not because of his accent, but just how British it sounded.

[Loot]

They were making fun...There does not seem to be one educated American on the show. If there is he is not getting any air time. I noticed that some of the first fighters chosen by the teams were guys who had never been shocased earlier in the show.

I also noticed that the last guy picked got a lot of facetime during UFN.

[Vanno]

Who knows, they might all have post-graduate degrees, but the show isn't trying to showcase intellect anyway.

[cheeto101]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

lol number 2 and number 4 are absolutely ridiculous. The majority of UFC fans enjoy TUF because the majority of UFC fans have come from TUF. Sorry, but you hardcores are either rapidly becoming the minority, or you already are the minority, my guess being the latter.

And i hope Bisping absolutely destroys everyone on the show.

[Loot]

I think it is pretty clear.....

If the show was smart they would showcase more than utter stupidity. I am sure there is more there for at least some of the "contestants." The training is always great to watch, and the editing folks always want to present coaches as polar opposites (moreso with Franklin/Hughes and Shamrock/Ortiz). The way they portrayed the U.S. fighters was as very ignorant individuals.

Making fun of accents, or at least being so mesmerized by them...
Getting peer pressures so easily into drinking large amounts of alcohol...
Acting like jackasses in general...

This is not the act of individuals with "post-graduate degrees."

If there is more to it, they should show it.

[cheeto101]

I still believe that the WWE will step in (if it already hasn't bought the UFC), and that is when MMA will explode in America and rival Pride FC and K-1. The infrastructure is already in place with the WWE PLUS Pride had the wrestling Infrastructure from New Japan, if I'm not mistaken.
haha except vince didnt create MMA, so he either despises it, or would turn it into a complete joke to make his WWE look better.

[JOZEF]

I still believe that the WWE will step in (if it already hasn't bought the UFC), and that is when MMA will explode in America and rival Pride FC and K-1.

that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

[sportsgenius86]

They were making fun...There does not seem to be one educated American on the show. If there is he is not getting any air time. I noticed that some of the first fighters chosen by the teams were guys who had never been shocased earlier in the show.

I also noticed that the last guy picked got a lot of facetime during UFN.


I dont know if Rory Singer is American for sure but he seemed relatively respectful and dignified on there. He reminded me of Nate Quarry.

[sportsgenius86]

that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.


Not really.....he's got a lot of money....and he likes spending it (see Mark Henry)....it's not too farfetched....i dont think it will ever happen but it wouldnt surprise me if it did

[Loot]

I dont know if Rory Singer is American for sure but he seemed relatively respectful and dignified on there. He reminded me of Nate Quarry.

I watched the entire show.....I heard him speak very little. Granted, my attention was taken by how idiotic the other guys were, but I did not see Rory get much air time.

I made the point somewhere that a ot of the top picks by the two teams did not get much air time at all. A few of the top guys barely said a word. I assume that talent will prevail and as the weeks go by we will get rid of the idiotic adolescents and hear more fomr the quiet individuals, so I am not making any real judgement calls yet.

My point was that the fighters were portrayed as ignorant and childish. They usually are during the first weeks (see Leben). I do not like this because they represent MMA. As soon as these jobbers get on the show, they are reaching out to casual fans who are ready and willing to label this **** a toughman contest with no brains or skill. They will throw a TUF guy in there with someone like Franklin (using him as an example because he was a teacher), and it rubs the sport the wrong way.

If we had a few more Nate Quarry's being utilized on the shows it may make people think a bit more than the eyebrow shaving and bed pissing does.

We will see how it goes.

[NY1981]

IF the UFC actually listened to their fans:

1) Joe Rogan would have been gone a long time ago
2) TUF would no longer exist
3) Fighters would get paid a decent sum of money
4) Dana White would be fired

Joe Rogan although stupid and annoying sometimes does appeal to a lot of fans and is more interesting to hear commentating then some of the other guys that have been on there. If TUF was gome there would be a great decline in the amount of new MMA fans. Face it, reality shows are big right now and having a reality show about MMA is huge. This is how new fans come to the sport. (This is the way I got my mom to start watching). Some fighters do get paid crap and there is room for improvement but a lot of the bigger names are getting enough through endoresements and what not. Looking at it from a business stand point the UFC is doing what they need to do(for the most part). I have never heard a fighter publicly say that he is not happy with the money he gets so if they don't have a problem with it, neither should you. Dana White can be aggervating and sometimes I have my doubts with what he says and does. Even though he has his rough edges he has done a good job and the UFC and MMA for that matter would not be where it is if it wasnt for him.

[Fallen Angel X]

I have never heard a fighter publicly say that he is not happy with the money he gets so if they don't have a problem with it, neither should you.


heh what fighter in their right mind whould bitch about the hand that feeds them in public?

[tupark]

Joe Rogan has some moments of complete mental lapses. He does get on my nerves as well at times, but he is still the best color man. At least he actually explains whats going on and not just he should "kick him de leever." The UFC is certainly dropping the ball with how they are using TUF. They should not be signing every fighter to contracts. They are misusing the event, but that is what is bringing in new fans. TUF cans sell like the circus freaks sell in Pride. The money situation is totally inexcusable. These guys should certainly be getting paid more than what they are being paid. Dana White is a jackass who does a lot of stupid stuff. I dont disgree there, but he has done a hell of a lot of good for the UFC. Overall he is doing a good job. The UFC is doing the wrong
I seriously couldn't have said this any better. I get sick of people saying **** about Rogan. I do like the new format for TUF, but I don't think every fighter should be in the UFC. That point was proven with UFN on Thursday. I dont normally complain about shows but that was the most boring event I've ever watched. Not to mention poorly judged.There are reasons why these guys didn't win the show. There are exception like Cummo and Leben, but for the most part they shouldn't be onthis big of a stage yet.

The fight at the end of TUF was the most exciting fight of the night.

[Drunken Gamer]

If Dana listened to the UFC fans, then he would recruit more TUF guys. If he listend to the Pride fans, then he would be recruiting top quality fighters, like olympians and K-1 challengers. And he would recruiting more fighters from around the globe, instead of just the usual USA/Canada/Mexico mix.

[adrock]

there will be a day where ufc can rival pride

huh?? what are you talking about? you make it out to seem that the ufc has just come out and is some young upstart organization, both are big time companies