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cameronb
06-29-2006, 01:20 PM
That may be the funniest thing I have ever heard, because I know everyone on the board was thinking the same thing. People try to give Rogan **** but I have a lot of respect for the guy because he always tells it like it is. When Goldy said "no one expected that" after Silva KO Leben, Joe goes "the hardcore fans did".

With that Im going the Joe Rogan fan club. I know Robby has the "Kang Gang" and Skinny has the Tim Sylvia fan club. I am now leading the official Joe Rogan fan club, we are now taking members.

bushidofighter
06-29-2006, 01:24 PM
you know what............. he knows about the sport, and he gives pride fighters the respect they diserve, and im pretty sure he would love to go and commentate for pride and he's got the fear factor show, sign me up.

D241
06-29-2006, 01:24 PM
I've been a Joe Rogan fan, he truly cares about the sport.
I've been on vacation the past two weeks, and this week I decided to view all of my mma collection, and I watched the old ufc's, and let me tell you it's amazing how far mma/ufc has come. Jeff Blatnick reffered to wrestlers as grapplers, didn't know what was going on, and in the Gracie/Severn fight just before Gracie taps Dan with a triangle choke, the announcer says Dan's in no real danger...

Anyways, getting off topic. I thought it was great the way Joe Rogan called it like it is, and it reminds fans that UFC has nothing to do with the judging. Rogan has been doing an outstanding job.

Ash
06-29-2006, 01:38 PM
I'm going to have to disagree here. I had the Bonnar vs. Rashad match 29-29 as well, and I think that's a good precedent to set. Rashad fought the most inactive, boring, lay and pray piece of **** fight I've ever seen, this side of Mark Kerr. He made no attempts to improve position, threw very few strikes standing or on the ground, and you can forget about him knowing a single submission. A fight, and a fighter like that is a complete black eye on the sport. A complete disgrace. Bonnar couldn't do much there, but at least he was trying subs from the bottom, and trying to make a fight happen when they were standing. I have no interest in ever seeing Rashad Evens fight again, unless he somehow learns how to fight. Until then, maybe he should go back to working in a mortuary, or whatever the hell he used to do.

As for Rogan, I never really minded him until last night. He just needs to stop saying the same **** over, and over. Yes, anyone whose fought knows that leg kicks hurt. But, they still don't feel bad as a punch to the face, so quit having an orgazm whenever someone throws a goddamn leg kick. And his comment about that judge being shot was stupid as well. That judge, whomever it was, scored that fight about as well as it could've been scored. What exactly was Rogan seeing from Rashad that constituted such a dominant performance? Takedowns? Yeah, those end lots of fights.

UFC__Fan
06-29-2006, 01:48 PM
For the most part, Rogan gets under my skin. But I gained a whole new level of respect for him last night because he was "telling it like it is". I wonder if he's going to get into any trouble for saying what he did? Some people take things to heart a little too much.

xxTapoutxx
06-29-2006, 03:02 PM
ive always like joe rogan also

i think he is a great commentator

xxTapoutxx
06-29-2006, 03:06 PM
That judge, whomever it was, scored that fight about as well as it could've been scored. What exactly was Rogan seeing from Rashad that constituted such a dominant performance? Takedowns? Yeah, those end lots of fights.

im not a big fan of evans but i have to admit he did alot more than wut bonnar did. All bonnar did was try for a submission which he was unsuccessful with everytime. Atleast evans caused some damage to bonnar.
Evans simply overpowered bonnar

short bus
06-29-2006, 03:08 PM
For the most part, Rogan gets under my skin. But I gained a whole new level of respect for him last night because he was "telling it like it is". I wonder if he's going to get into any trouble for saying what he did? Some people take things to heart a little too much.
that must have been the first fight you've seen with him then. Rogan has always told it how it is. He has almost always remianed indifferent to who was fighting and only said positive things first.
He has ALWAYS been very critical of calls he didnt agree with and he doesnt sugar coat anything.

I hyave always liked him cause just liek someone else said, he has a true love for the sport. He could make MUCH more money elsewhere i am sure, he really loves the sport and has 100x the persoanlity of just any ol fighter or commentator.

sign me the **** up. but Miek Goldberg NEEDS TO GO!!!!

Tony Montana
06-29-2006, 03:10 PM
Rogan is arrogant and cocky, but as a MMA announcer he's great. He's a true fan for the sport and it shows in his commentating.

Goldberg on the other hand I'm not so sure about. I think his interest is fading. It's like he's spaced out for half the broadcast. For example, he starts saying how the Goulet/Cummo fight was all but over with with about 2 minutes left in the round 3. Firstly, they split rounds 1/2 on two of the judges' scorecards. Secondly, it was obvious that Cummo could easily KO Goulet and wasn't fading in the least.

Rogan sort of countered Goldberg by saying, "anything can still happen" because he was actually paying attention to the fight. And sure enough, Cummo came within a hair of pulling off a rear naked choke.

Spartan4
06-29-2006, 03:12 PM
Bonnar didn't control the fight and for Rashas having no fighting skills, i think that says enough. Bonnar was very unimpressive, doing nothing effective. Not one sub attempt came close, no stand-up, couldn't get anything going, besides Rashad was alot stronger....Bonnar has no take downs. How can anyone judge it 29/29?

xxTapoutxx
06-29-2006, 03:13 PM
Goldberg on the other hand I'm not so sure about. I think his interest is fading. It's like he's spaced out for half the broadcast. For example, he starts saying how the Goulet/Cummo fight was all but over with with about 2 minutes left in the round 3. Firstly, they split rounds 1/2 on two of the judges' scorecards. Secondly, it was obvious that Cummo could easily KO Goulet and wasn't fading in the least.

didnt goldberg leave the UFC for a little while and go to a wrestling organization to commentate for a little while or am i just imagining things?

short bus
06-29-2006, 03:17 PM
How can you have commentated on the UFC this long and still not knwo anythign about it?
He was talkign about catching leg kicks and Rogan had a complete WTF tone to his reply. Goldberg says the dumbest **** every UFC. He knows suprisingly little abpout the sport and i think they just need a really quiet person who knows the sport REALLY well and/or has competed. Someone cerdible that wont compete with Rogan for attention or mic time.
More of a consultant on the mic.

Tap_or_Snap
06-29-2006, 03:51 PM
Does anyone remember that one judge scored the Cummo fight 29-29 as well...? The boxing judges in MMA need to go!

Serialkilla
06-29-2006, 03:54 PM
If Bonnar/Evans fought in Pride then Bonnar would have won a Unanimous Dec.

short bus
06-29-2006, 04:00 PM
didnt goldberg leave the UFC for a little while and go to a wrestling organization to commentate for a little while or am i just imagining things?
i really dont think so. i checked imdb and it only had UFC events listed

JPW328
06-29-2006, 04:10 PM
have any of you ever even been to a ufc?? its so damn intense , especially FRONT ROW... try watching fight live the way they are and commentate at the same time.. its ****in hard to do so i give both of the guys much respect and joe knows what he talking about..

Lord Strongo
06-29-2006, 04:19 PM
have any of you ever even been to a ufc?? its so damn intense , especially FRONT ROW... try watching fight live the way they are and commentate at the same time.. its ****in hard to do so i give both of the guys much respect and joe knows what he talking about..

do you know that they have screens in front of them with crystal clear vision of the fights.


of course he doe's joes the expert. :rolleyes: i love how goldberg talks all stupid and sets joe up for the correction.

mike: it looks like matts trying to set up some type of leg scissor sweep reversal
joe: actually mike matts trying to bait royce with a triangle choke
mike: matt has the choke oh my god this is amazing
joe:no he doesnt what matt needs to do is pass the leg over his right shoulder and................mike interrupts: you're the man joe.

Spartan4
06-29-2006, 04:35 PM
If Bonnar/Evans fought in Pride then Bonnar would have won a Unanimous Dec.

:?: For doing what?? Defense and no offense?

cameronb
06-29-2006, 04:48 PM
If Bonnar/Evans fought in Pride then Bonnar would have won a Unanimous Dec.
What fight were you watching. Bonnar tried like five attempts while taking punches to the face the whole fight. Rashad didnt finish but Bonnar didnt even come close to a sub and couldn't keep it on his feet. Rashad Evans gained my respect last night.

On another note Goldberg is the worst.

Ash
06-29-2006, 06:22 PM
What fight were you watching. Bonnar tried like five attempts while taking punches to the face the whole fight. Rashad didnt finish but Bonnar didnt even come close to a sub and couldn't keep it on his feet. Rashad Evans gained my respect last night.

That's absurd, man. At the very most, Bonnar ate about 10 punches in that fight. Even calling that a fight is a disrespect to the word.

Scarborough
06-29-2006, 06:31 PM
I'm going to have to disagree here. I had the Bonnar vs. Rashad match 29-29 as well, and I think that's a good precedent to set. Rashad fought the most inactive, boring, lay and pray piece of **** fight I've ever seen, this side of Mark Kerr. He made no attempts to improve position, threw very few strikes standing or on the ground, and you can forget about him knowing a single submission. A fight, and a fighter like that is a complete black eye on the sport. A complete disgrace. Bonnar couldn't do much there, but at least he was trying subs from the bottom, and trying to make a fight happen when they were standing. I have no interest in ever seeing Rashad Evens fight again, unless he somehow learns how to fight. Until then, maybe he should go back to working in a mortuary, or whatever the hell he used to do.

As for Rogan, I never really minded him until last night. He just needs to stop saying the same **** over, and over. Yes, anyone whose fought knows that leg kicks hurt. But, they still don't feel bad as a punch to the face, so quit having an orgazm whenever someone throws a goddamn leg kick. And his comment about that judge being shot was stupid as well. That judge, whomever it was, scored that fight about as well as it could've been scored. What exactly was Rogan seeing from Rashad that constituted such a dominant performance? Takedowns? Yeah, those end lots of fights.

What about all of the huge slams Rashad was able to pull off, slams like that hurt man, they take a lot of out you.

Ash
06-29-2006, 06:39 PM
His slams were good, there's no taking that away. It's just what he did (or didn't) do afterwards which made that entire match an insult to watch.

Shinobi
06-29-2006, 07:48 PM
Rashad fought the most inactive, boring, lay and pray piece of **** fight I've ever seen, this side of Mark Kerr.

Never seen any Jake Shields "fights" have we?

robbypark
06-29-2006, 07:53 PM
With me, Rogan is like night and day.

Sometimes I like him because he provides insightful commentary and sometimes I absolutely hate him because he's an abnoxious little runt.

ACIDBATHBELFORT
06-29-2006, 07:57 PM
With me, Rogan is like night and day.

Sometimes I like him because he provides insightful commentary and sometimes I absolutely hate him because he's an abnoxious little runt.

I feel the same way with Rogan. Ive liked him as of late though. For a while I was getting tired of him. He does have annoying moments. I find Rogan the best color man because he is the most informative. I never found Bas informative, just funny at times.

dhk1980
06-29-2006, 08:00 PM
i can't stand Rogan the guy is biased and has said some dumbass things like "bring on FEdor, Sylvia will beat him". what a ****ing joke!

Lord Strongo
06-29-2006, 08:03 PM
i can't stand Rogan the guy is biased and has said some dumbass things like "bring on FEdor, Sylvia will beat him". what a ****ing joke!


my old roomate is a spitting image of joe. same hair line same height same same 5 oclock shadow. same personality, its very bad.

robbypark
06-29-2006, 08:05 PM
my old roomate is a spitting image of joe. same hair line same height same same 5 oclock shadow. same personality, its very bad.

Is he 5'2 just like Joe as well? :lol:

ilostmydog
06-29-2006, 08:08 PM
i can't stand Rogan the guy is biased and has said some dumbass things like "bring on FEdor, Sylvia will beat him". what a ****ing joke!

Yeah, Sylvia won't just beat Fedor, he'll knock his head into the 17th row! That damn Joe Rogan got it wrong again! :p

Lord Strongo
06-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Is he 5'2 just like Joe as well? :lol:

yeah i forgot that. :redface: he's 5'4"

tony brandt
06-29-2006, 08:28 PM
With me, Rogan is like night and day.

Sometimes I like him because he provides insightful commentary and sometimes I absolutely hate him because he's an abnoxious little runt.Could not have said it better myself. Time for Randy to take over.

JPW328
06-29-2006, 10:40 PM
screen tv or not doesnt matter, the fact im trying to prove is it is very loud, intense, and crazy when the fight begins.. joe is a fan like us so having to commentate while watching the fight is a pretty difficult task.. i know when im there i get nervous for the fighter just knowing it could end any spit second. so when a couple dumb comments slip out just ignore it... would you rather have some traditional dry sports commentator do it that is there for money and doesnt love the sport. joes great, he does stand up comedy as well which is pretty funny.



do you know that they have screens in front of them with crystal clear vision of the fights.


of course he doe's joes the expert. :rolleyes: i love how goldberg talks all stupid and sets joe up for the correction.

mike: it looks like matts trying to set up some type of leg scissor sweep reversal
joe: actually mike matts trying to bait royce with a triangle choke
mike: matt has the choke oh my god this is amazing
joe:no he doesnt what matt needs to do is pass the leg over his right shoulder and................mike interrupts: you're the man joe.

Solaris Flare
06-29-2006, 10:43 PM
I didnt hear Joe say anything about blade either (but maybe I missed something).. Props to him for that.

robbypark
06-29-2006, 11:17 PM
screen tv or not doesnt matter, the fact im trying to prove is it is very loud, intense, and crazy when the fight begins.. joe is a fan like us so having to commentate while watching the fight is a pretty difficult task.. i know when im there i get nervous for the fighter just knowing it could end any spit second. so when a couple dumb comments slip out just ignore it... would you rather have some traditional dry sports commentator do it that is there for money and doesnt love the sport. joes great, he does stand up comedy as well which is pretty funny.

You can love the sport and be professional at the same time. You see these commentators in the MLB, NBA, and NFL all the time.

ACIDBATHBELFORT
06-29-2006, 11:27 PM
You can love the sport and be professional at the same time. You see these commentators in the MLB, NBA, and NFL all the time.

Joe does tend to get over excited at times. That said, all the good announcers in sports get excited when there are big plays. Joe just does is a little more than others.

Jordan.
06-30-2006, 12:02 AM
I'm going to have to disagree here. I had the Bonnar vs. Rashad match 29-29 as well, and I think that's a good precedent to set. Rashad fought the most inactive, boring, lay and pray piece of **** fight I've ever seen, this side of Mark Kerr. He made no attempts to improve position, threw very few strikes standing or on the ground, and you can forget about him knowing a single submission. A fight, and a fighter like that is a complete black eye on the sport. A complete disgrace. Bonnar couldn't do much there, but at least he was trying subs from the bottom, and trying to make a fight happen when they were standing. I have no interest in ever seeing Rashad Evens fight again, unless he somehow learns how to fight. Until then, maybe he should go back to working in a mortuary, or whatever the hell he used to do.

As for Rogan, I never really minded him until last night. He just needs to stop saying the same **** over, and over. Yes, anyone whose fought knows that leg kicks hurt. But, they still don't feel bad as a punch to the face, so quit having an orgazm whenever someone throws a goddamn leg kick. And his comment about that judge being shot was stupid as well. That judge, whomever it was, scored that fight about as well as it could've been scored. What exactly was Rogan seeing from Rashad that constituted such a dominant performance? Takedowns? Yeah, those end lots of fights.

I couldn't agree more.

Rashad did ABSOLUTELY nothing but take Bonnar down. Bonnar clearly won round three due to his constant submission attempts from the bottom and round 2 could have easily been scored a draw.

adrock
06-30-2006, 12:27 AM
i can't stand Rogan the guy is biased and has said some dumbass things like "bring on FEdor, Sylvia will beat him". what a ****ing joke!
when did he ever say that? what time? what place? what date? what event? prove to me that he said that

robbypark
06-30-2006, 12:31 AM
when did he ever say that? what time? what place? what date? what event? prove to me that he said that

He did say it. It was at UFC 44 right after he KO'd Gan McGee.

moriarty
06-30-2006, 09:18 AM
Joe does tend to get over excited at times. That said, all the good announcers in sports get excited when there are big plays. Joe just does is a little more than others.

He made some comment the other night, and then said, "and no I'm not drunk or stoned". Cracked me up. I think he's self aware that he gets a little excited at times and says stupid things/gets facts wrong.

Overall I like him, although Robby probably said it best. I'd actually like to see him and Quardos in the booth, as I think that would be an interesting dynamic. Quadros is well prepared, knowledgeable, and knows how to have fun but balanced enough to keep control when Joe goes crazy overboard.

Lord Strongo
06-30-2006, 09:25 AM
i'm not a fan of joe,but his comment during the nick diaz vs Koji Oishi fight was one of the funniest thing i ever heard in commentary. koji was standing near the fence hands down with this zombie look on his face diaz was swinging away and joe say's he looks like he's on heroin. ;) funny.

nhbfan8080
06-30-2006, 09:31 AM
A 29-29 score means there had to be a 10-10 round which is very odd.
A draw is usually scored 9-9 not 10-10, and Bonnar/Rashad doing very little hardly justifies a 10-10.
Why bother fixing the scoring criteria when judges can't even write down their scores properly? And UFC's judging is better? Pah!

Lord Strongo
06-30-2006, 09:33 AM
A 29-29 score means there had to be a 10-10 round which is very odd.
A draw is usually scored 9-9 not 10-10, and Bonnar/Rashad doing very little hardly justifies a 10-10.
Why bother fixing the scoring criteria when judges can't even write down their scores properly? And UFC's judging is better? Pah!


whats sad is most of the ufc judge's are boxing judge's. they should know how to score a fight. :rolleyes:

Jordan.
06-30-2006, 10:42 AM
I've seen rounds in the UFC scored 10-10 before, but I've never seen a 9-9 round.

You may disagree with the fight being scored a draw, but at least the judging is taking a step in the right direction. A year ago that fight would have been scored 30-27 by all three judges just because they would automatically score the round for whoever was on top, even if the guy on the botton was going for submissions, while the guy on top stalled. I think scoring round three for Bonnar is a step in the right direction for UFC judging.

tupark
06-30-2006, 10:48 AM
For the most part, Rogan gets under my skin. But I gained a whole new level of respect for him last night because he was "telling it like it is". I wonder if he's going to get into any trouble for saying what he did? Some people take things to heart a little too much.
I've always been a fan of Rogan (check previous postings) because he has always told it how it is and does more than say OH! when somone lands a good shot. I'm happy that some people are giving him the credit he deserves.

xxTapoutxx
06-30-2006, 11:00 AM
I've always been a fan of Rogan (check previous postings) because he has always told it how it is and does more than say OH! when somone lands a good shot. I'm happy that some people are giving him the credit he deserves.

ya ur right he doesnt just say OH

he says the famous yet annoying "HE'S ROCKED"

cameronb
06-30-2006, 11:37 AM
i'm not a fan of joe,but his comment during the nick diaz vs Koji Oishi fight was one of the funniest thing i ever heard in commentary. koji was standing near the fence hands down with this zombie look on his face diaz was swinging away and joe say's he looks like he's on heroin. ;) funny.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I laughed for days about that. It also cracks me up when someone takes a low blow and we see the replay and Joe uses the word "Jewels".