UFC 70 Manchester spoilers

[Cbear]

Post spoilers here. The show airs on tape delay, for free, on SPIKE TV Saturday April 21 at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
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Currently 3 fights have taken place and here are the results.

Paul Tayler def. Edilberto Crocota by TKO in round 3
Jess Liaudin def. Dennis Siver by Armbar in round 1
Alessio Sakara def. Victor Valimaki by TKO in round 1

Still to go:

Junior Assuncao vs David Lee
Matt Grice vs Terry Etim
Assuerio Silva vs Cheick Kongo
Fabricio Werdum vs Andrei Arlovski
Elvis Sinosic v Michael Bisping
Lyoto Machida vs David Heath
Gabriel Gonzaga vs Mirko Cro Cop

[Drunken Gamer]

Post spoilers here. The show airs on tape delay, for free, on SPIKE TV Saturday April 21 at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
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Currently 3 fights have taken place and here are the results.

Paul Tayler def. Edilberto Crocota by TKO in round 3
Jess Liaudin def. Dennis Siver by Armbar in round 1
Alessio Sakara def. Victor Valimaki by TKO in round 1

Still to go:

Junior Assuncao vs David Lee
Matt Grice vs Terry Etim
Assuerio Silva vs Cheick Kongo
Fabricio Werdum vs Andrei Arlovski
Elvis Sinosic v Michael Bisping
Lyoto Machida vs David Heath
Gabriel Gonzaga vs Mirko Cro Cop

Still to go: John Doe vs Richard Roe!

[Cbear]

Junior Assuncao def. David Lee by Rear Naked Choke in Round 2

[Cbear]

Still to go: John Doe vs Richard Roe!

With the seemingly endless number of new mma promotions that are popping up daily, we are going to be seeing alot more unknown guys on fight cards. The McDojos are going to be emptying out with guys getting jobs in "mma." The newest promotion is headed by a retired boxing referee named Steele. I forget the exact name but its something like Steele Cage Promotions.

[Cbear]

Terry Etim def. Matt Grice by Guillotine Choke in round 1.

[Thumpin]

man my picks are for crap with these John Does

[Maverick31]

PBP live can be found here:
http://www.nokaut.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19227&start=40

[Drunken Gamer]

With the seemingly endless number of new mma promotions that are popping up daily, we are going to be seeing alot more unknown guys on fight cards. The McDojos are going to be emptying out with guys getting jobs in "mma." The newest promotion is headed by a retired boxing referee named Steele. I forget the exact name but its something like Steele Cage Promotions.

I like that! "McDojos"

[wgrapple]

Is this streaming anywhere right now?

[Maverick31]

Is this streaming anywhere right now?



Yes, I'd be interested in that if anyone has information.

[wgrapple]

Yes, I'd be interested in that if anyone has information.

It has to be but I haven't located it yet...pm yellow and I oh great one if you have such info

[Thumpin]

Kongo by decision

[wgrapple]

Results so far...

Paul Taylor def. Edilberto Crocota by TKO (due to strikes) at 0:37, Round 3
Jess Liaudin def. Dennis Siver by Armbar at 1:21, Round 1
Alessio Sakara def. Victor Valimaki by TKO (due to strike) at 1:44, Round 1
Junior Assuncao def. David Lee by Rear Naked Choke at 1:55, Round 2
Terry Etim def. Matt Grice by Guillotine Choke at 4:38, Round 1
Cheick Kongo def. Assuerio Silva by Majority Decision, 3 Rounds
Lyoto Machida def. David Heath by Unanimous Decision, 3 Rounds
Michael Bisping def. Elvis Sinosic by TKO (due to strikes) 1:20, Round 2

[Jay]

Thank **** for that, Bisping won.

I was reading a pbp and it said "Elvis catches and drops Bisping, he has a choke" and then my page crashed when I refreshed. How did he get out of that? A reversal then tko?

[Thumpin]

AA by decision in what sounded like a boring fight...AA even apologized for a boring fight. hohum...


Jay - yes...ref stoppage

[Cbear]

Cheick Kongo def. Assuerio Silva by decision
Lyoto Machida def. David Heath by decision
Michael Bisping def. Elvis Sinosic by in Round 2
Andrei Arlovski def. Fabricio Werdum by decision

The only thing left is:
A) Crocop destroying Gonzaga.
B) Gonzaga scoring the biggest upset of the year.

[wgrapple]

Gonzaga wins!!! thank you thank you...I believe I was the only one calling that one

[Cbear]

Since I want to see great matches with Crocop eating through the UFC division, I hope Gonzaga hasn't channeled the spirit of Matt Serra to score the upset.

[Cbear]

Good Lord, Gonzaga ko'd Crocop with a headkick in round 1. This is horrible for the UFC and future fights.

[Cbear]

Absolutely the worst thing that could have happened. Nobody wants to see Gonzaga vs Randy or anyone else. Now Crocop goes back to ground zero and has to rebuild. He never should have grown the goatee of death.

[wgrapple]

Good Lord, Gonzaga ko'd Crocop with a headkick in round 1. This is horrible for the UFC and future fights.

This is great for two reasons...

1. wgrapple was the only person calling Gonzaga to win

2. randy vs gonzaga will be a good fight

3. crocop vs big tim! haha

well three reasons...

[Scarborough]

I can't ****ing believe MMA in 2007...JESUS!

[Cbear]

How the hell did Fedor beat Lindland since this is the year of insane upsets? Oh yeah, I forgot, he did cheat. :)

[Adam15]

OMG!! That was the sickest head kick I have ever seen!!!

[hyperion]

i cant believe what im reading.

2007 really is the craziest f*cking year in MMA history.

[Cbear]

This is great for two reasons...

1. wgrapple was the only person calling Gonzaga to win

2. randy vs gonzaga will be a good fight

3. crocop vs big tim! haha

well three reasons...

The problem for the UFC is that now Crocop has been destroyed as a money draw. The casual UFC fan will wonder why Crocop had such a badass rep when he can't win but one fight in the UFC. Dana has to be bawling over the millions of bucks that future Crocop fights would have drawn. Its rehab time for Crocop to get back in the money.

Randy vs Gonzaga might be an ok fight but it won't draw 1/3 of what Randy vs Crocop would have. No matter what the buy rates are, Randy will be Responsible for all but 1 buy which will be Gonzagas mama. I don't dislike Gonzaga but this threw the division into even more chaos.

[cheeto101]

holy ****..................

[Cbear]

OMG!! That was the sickest head kick I have ever seen!!!

Was it a high kick ala the Salmon destruction or was Crocop somehow down and got an upkick?

[hyperion]

someone post a gif. theres got to be one comin out asap.

[Adam15]

Was it a high kick ala the Salmon destruction or was Crocop somehow down and got an upkick?

It was a standing head kick ala Cro Cop himself! Just like Cro Cop on Vovchanchyn or Vanderlei. It seriously looked like Cro Cops neck was broken at first, I was worried for his safety!

[wgrapple]

All I know is I wasn't planning on watching the show and know I will haha

[Adam15]

All I know is I wasn't planning on watching the show and know I will haha

It wasn't that great apart from the main event tbh.

[hyperion]

and i agree with you, cbear.

the only possible thing i can see now is a cro-cop arlovski fight so if cro-cop wins, he gets back in huge with the fans..if not, it pushes arlovski right back into the mix of things and makes him #1 contender.

but after this loss does cro-cop deserve a match with arlovski?

and was it just mirko getting caught? the round was almost over.

and what does this do for the parity between prides HWs and UFCs HWs that we've been arguing about for years?

so many questions!

[wgrapple]

and i agree with you, cbear.

the only possible thing i can see now is a cro-cop arlovski fight so if cro-cop wins, he gets back in huge with the fans..if not, it pushes arlovski right back into the mix of things and makes him #1 contender.

but after this loss does cro-cop deserve a match with arlovski?

and was it just mirko getting caught? the round was almost over.

and what does this do for the parity between prides HWs and UFCs HWs that we've been arguing about for years?

so many questions!

This win doesn't bother me...Gonzaga is a good fighter and I think Crocop has lost his fire...

GSP and Diego losing were a lot worse to me...

Crocop will bounce back if he wants but he doesn't seem that passionate right now and losing this way isn't going to help that I imagine

[Cbear]

This win doesn't bother me...Gonzaga is a good fighter and I think Crocop has lost his fire...

GSP and Diego losing were a lot worse to me...

Crocop will bounce back if he wants but he doesn't seem that passionate right now and losing this way isn't going to help that I imagine

I wondered the same thing in Crocops debut vs whatshisname. I expected total destruction in under a minute but Crocop had to chase him around and even landed the LHK which didn't decapitate the jobber. I wondered then if we were seeing Crocop-lite. He was so dominant in the Pride GP and now seems like he has half the motivation. Could the jump have been that detrimental on him?

[Cbear]

It was a standing head kick ala Cro Cop himself! Just like Cro Cop on Vovchanchyn or Vanderlei. It seriously looked like Cro Cops neck was broken at first, I was worried for his safety!

I guess Crocop wasn't even looking for his own tactics to be used against him.

[xxTapoutxx]

wow this makes me kinda mad

im not having anyone over my house to watch it anymore lol

[fist]

In todays issue of many Croatian newspapers Cro Cop said he is sick of everything, training, travelling, fighting. He also said every next fight could be his last. I am affraid this could be The end.

On the other hand, we Croatians are stubborn as an oxe. This could also be his motivator for another climbing from the bottom, but for the first time in last 10 years, I seriously doubt!

[Cbear]

In todays issue of many Croatian newspapers Cro Cop said he is sick of everything, training, travelling, fighting. He also said every next fight could be his last. I am affraid this could be The end.

On the other hand, we Croatians are stubborn as an oxe. This could also be his motivator for another climbing from the bottom, but for the first time in last 10 years, I seriously doubt!

He also recently said he wasn't going to stay in politics anymore. It does appear that he has been burning the candle at both ends and doing way too much for the last couple of years. When that happens, people often say "screw it" and just walk away. Sometimes they rest, recharge and come back and sometimes they don't. I'd hate to see Crocop walk away but he really could stand to cut out at least half the activity in his life and just relax more. Facially, he has aged alot in the last 2 years and thats due to overwork and stress.

[gunslinger]

This is great for two reasons...

1. wgrapple was the only person calling Gonzaga to win

2. randy vs gonzaga will be a good fight

3. crocop vs big tim! haha

well three reasons...

good point about crocop sylvia.. I would like that..
**** I feel so bad. this sucks... crocop by a head kick. what the **** is happening to mma...o my god. etc,etc,etc... I honestly feel really bad. I wanted to see crocop fight randy, or see werdum beat arlovski, but I was wrong.

are pride fighters overrated? is fedor even that bad? I dont know what to think! If the lower level UFC fighters are the best in the world then I dont know what to think.. Im going crazy!

some body please tell me where I can watch this

[JC]

That head kick was sick, gotta give Gonzaga his props. The man came to fight. I don't think Cro Cop threw a single strike in like 4 mins of standup.

With that said, I truly think a big difference in whether a PRIDE fighter will do well in the UFC (and vice versa) is how well they adjust to the new battleground.

It's foreign to them and I would think plays on their mind a little.

That is, unless you're Fedor. :cool:

Oh, and F*CK these upsets dammit ! :mad:

[hyperion]

i think mirkos only true motivation is fedor, hunt and nog. maybe even now gonzaga..

but i dunno, id like to see mirko just relax a while. take some time off, he's been fighting every 3-4 months for a long time and he has looked nothing like the GP winner we saw last year.

if dana can somehow lock fedor up in a contract, i can see mirko motivating himself with the chance he can fight him, but after today it just doesnt seem like he cares.

[jas]

I`ve just got back from UFC 70, It was a good night, the undercard fights were all really good. The Main fights were ok, Bisping was great. Gonzaga`s KO kick was stunning. From the start of the fight Cro Cop didnt seem himself and he sounded really dejected in the interview after. When Joe asked him what was next he said that he didnt know and it was too early to say for sure.

[jas]

Found this on another forum

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8527/crocophf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Thumpin]

some body please tell me where I can watch this

It should be one SPIKE tonight :)

THIS SUCKS

f'n CroCop......what the hell..... I'm not pleased. I was looking for him to give some legitimacy to the HW division and he goes and does this...what a load of crap

somewhere, Randy is very pleased

[hyperion]

holy cow that was a vicious kick.

[Thumpin]

and what does this do for the parity between prides HWs and UFCs HWs that we've been arguing about for years?

so many questions!

This finally exposes the myth that PRIDE was superior to UFC. PRIDE was full of nothing but cans and hyped up wannabe's. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess we finally settled the debate from all these years!! w00t!

[muhr]

Here's my remembrance of the fight.

Gabe keeps circling away from Mirko's left, throwing the occasional punch. Mirko circles with him throwing nothing. Gabe lands a leg kick. More circling. Mirko attempts a bodykick, Gabe catches it and scores a takedown. Mirko closes his guard. Gabe at a fairly steady rate is able to land elbows, possibly even cutting Mirko as I remember some blood. Ref thinks Gabe is too inactive and stands the fight up. More circling and then Gabe throws the right highkick, Mirko attempts to block it, but his hands are too low. Brutal kayo and his right ankle folds something awful. Gabe lands a ground punch for good measure. Mirko is out for awhile, jaw clenched tight on his mouthguard.

[muhr]

Mirko seems to need a beating to keep his head out of the clouds.

[gunslinger]

It should be one SPIKE tonight :)

THIS SUCKS

f'n CroCop......what the hell..... I'm not pleased. I was looking for him to give some legitimacy to the HW division and he goes and does this...what a load of crap

somewhere, Randy is very pleased


No cable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****ing ****! ugh...

IF mma is like this then this sucks. what the hell is crocops problem? he showed he is an awesome fighter in the GP, but this is ****nig rediculous. he has fought ernesto hoost, fedor, nog,barnett,etc, and he gets ko'd by a guy who had one of the most boring fights in UFC history/mma history.

if anyone has any fights online post a link please!

[Adam15]

No cable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****ing ****! ugh...

IF mma is like this then this sucks. what the hell is crocops problem? he showed he is an awesome fighter in the GP, but this is ****nig rediculous. he has fought ernesto hoost, fedor, nog,barnett,etc, and he gets ko'd by a guy who had one of the most boring fights in UFC history/mma history.

if anyone has any fights online post a link please!

It was a different Gonzaga tonight. He was focused and looked like he wanted it a hell of a lot more than Cro Cop did.

You can say what you will about Gonzaga, but the guy has brutal strikes and anyone that's disinterested in the fight enough to get hit by one is in serious trouble.

[Drunken Gamer]

Just saw the fight.

CroCop threw in the entire fight:

Punches: ZERO

Kicks: ONE


Based on that performance, I say that Dos Caras Jr should demand a rematch.

[Thumpin]

Just saw the fight.

CroCop threw in the entire fight:

Punches: ZERO

Kicks: ONE


Based on that performance, I say that Dos Caras Jr should demand a rematch.


UFC > Pride

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Drunken Gamer]

UFC > Pride



PRIDE = nonexistent

Or UFC > 0

:lol: :lol:

[tripwire]

Just saw the fight.

CroCop threw in the entire fight:

Punches: ZERO

Kicks: ONE


Based on that performance, I say that Dos Caras Jr should demand a rematch.


Come on now, it wasn't like that. Give Gonzaga credit, he circled exactly like he had to. He was very active with his jabs, kicks and punches while he circled. Then he caught a good middle kick and took him down and beat his ass. Then stood up and knocked him out. Mirko wasn't ABLE to do anything in that fight.

[cheeto101]

Yah say what you want, but Gabriel came out and fought the perfect fight, no joke. That wasnt anything cro cop did or didnt do, it was Gonzaga being totally on.

And that kick was one of the craziest high kicks ive ever seen

[Drunken Gamer]

Come on now, it wasn't like that. Give Gonzaga credit, he circled exactly like he had to. He was very active with his jabs, kicks and punches while he circled. Then he caught a good middle kick and took him down and beat his ass. Then stood up and knocked him out. Mirko wasn't ABLE to do anything in that fight.

It was like that.

Watch the fight: he didn't throw a single punch, and only one kick. Yes Gonzaga pushed the action, but Mirko didn't play any offense. Period.

[ilostmydog]

Just saw the fight.

CroCop threw in the entire fight:

Punches: ZERO

Kicks: ONE


Based on that performance, I say that Dos Caras Jr should demand a rematch.

Mirko will have to wait. Dos Caras Jr is on a collision course with Johnny Morton!

[fist]

Mirko seems to need a beating to keep his head out of the clouds.

LOL, sounds funny but I think you just hit the point!

This can end only with:
a) This was Mirkos last fight and he retires
b) he comes back much more focused and tries to climb up again to the title fight, just like he did after Randleman


Another funny thing is that anything conected with movie industry is kind of kryptonite for him. Before Randleman loss he was making his awfull movie and before this fight he was wasting his time with Van Damme.

[Thumpin]

PRIDE = nonexistent

Or UFC > 0

:lol: :lol:

touche...

but I think you missed my sarcasm :D