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08-22-2007, 07:23 PM
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/rampage-henderson-training-1816647-fight-ufc

FIGHT BLOG: Rampage, Henderson media days
The two champs prepare for their unification fight at UFC 75 on Sept. 8
By CARLOS ARIAS
The Orange County Register

RAMPAGE MEDIA DAY

BIG BEAR CITY - I got a chance to visit Quinton "Rampage" Jackson's training camp in Big Bear on Monday morning.

I had to get up the mountain to check out the UFC light-heavyweight champion before he heads across the pond for his unification fight against PRIDE champion Dan Henderson on Sept. 8 at UFC 75 in England.

Rampage's training session was supposed to start at 12:30 p.m. It was 11:45 a.m. and I was stuck on the 10 freeway, and it wasn't moving. I'm not talking barely moving, I mean, NOT moving.

I called UFC publicist Rachel Trontel, who was bringing a van-load of media members from L.A. They were stuck in the same traffic, and they were behind me, so there was no way any of us were going to make it up the mountain by 12:30 p.m.

We arrived at Rampage's training camp an hour late. He was already done training for the day. He had started earlier in the morning, so we would have missed his workout even if we made it on time.

Rampage and his trainer, Juanito Ibarra, were eager to get off the mountain. They were leaving for England on Tuesday. Rampage wanted to see his kids before heading to the U.K. for his final two weeks of training.

Rampage was very laid back, calm and playful with interviewers as usual.

A CBS camera crew wanted Rampage to cut a promo for their channel, and Rampage said he needed to get paid for any promos. The CBS guy is speechless, not realizing that Rampage was kidding.

During my interview with Rampage he said his training has been going great. He has been training just as hard as before he won the title. He said some of Henderson's guys have been trying to spy on his training sessions.

TUF 3 winner Michael Bisping, Cheick Kongo and Brandon Vera were among those he has been training and sparring with. He also revealed he spent a couple of weeks in Las Vegas training with UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture, who used to be teammates with Henderson at Team Quest. I wonder what Henderson thinks about his old pal helping out Rampage. I'll ask Henderson about that on Tuesday when I visit his training camp.

I asked Juanito about the recent additions of Wanderlei Silva and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua to the UFC. Silva beat Rampage twice and Rua also holds a victory over him. Those fights were held in the PRIDE ring in Japan. Juanito said he believes Silva and Rua had "extra help" when they fought Rampage. He didn't spell out exactly what that extra help was. But our conversation quickly turned to the fact there was no athletic commission or steroid testing when they fought in Japan. Juanito said the outcome will be much different when they meet in the U.S.

Juanito said he won't allow any of his fighters to use supplements, creatine or any other concoctions even if they are sold over the counter. He wants his fighters to be clean. If anybody brings any strange supplements into his camp, he said he will kick them off the mountain. He even monitors everything they eat.

Juanito said he wants Rampage to take a six-month break after the Henderson fight, which will be his third fight of the year. Juanito said he is shopping a Rampage reality show, which is being bid on by MTV, Spike and A&E. Rampage also is getting offers for role sin movies.

Bisping said he forged a friendship with Rampage after hanging out and "sharing some pints" together in England after UFC events earlier this year. Bisping expressed an interest in training with Juanito and Rampage and that's how they got together.

Juanito said Bisping is destined to be a UFC champion. He hinted that Bisping might be moving out of the 205-pound weight class in the future. Bisping confirmed he believes he can make the 185-pound limit. Bisping's dynamic striking and the added strength he would have at a lower weight class would make him a serious force, as if he weren't a force already. Bisping said he has a nine-fight contract with the UFC and he wants to take his time moving up the ladder and improving with each fight.

Bisping faces his TUF 3 rival Matt Hammil on the Rampage-Henderson undercard at UFC 75. It's some unfinished business he has to take care of. Bisping said he always felt slighted by Tito Ortiz, his coach on TUF 3, because Ortiz took Hammil under his wing. Bisping said Hammil is a one-dimensional wrestler and he plans to expose him at UFC 75.

Juanito said Kongo's ground skills are much improved considering he had "no ground skills whatsoever" when they started working together. Juanito said don't be surprised if Kongo upsets Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic at UFC 75.

Four-time world champion Sugar Shane Mosley stopped by Rampage's camp. Shane and Rampage have become friends in recent years. Shane said he finds MMA very exciting, especially Rampage's fights. I bring up Shane's Nov. 10 fight against Miguel Cotto at MSG. Shane starts salivating. "He's tailormade for me," Shane said about facing Cotto.

Those of us that were hoping to get some video of Rampage in action were disappointed that we missed his training session. I plead my case with Rampage and he agrees to do some shadowboxing in the cage for us.

Rampage is off to England. He will spend the final two weeks training at Bisping's camp, the Wolfslair. That will give him plenty of time to get acclimated to the time change and the conditions overseas.

HENDO MEDIA DAY

MURRIETA - No traffic problems on Tuesday on the way to media day with Dan Henderson at Team Quest in Murrieta.

Henderson is one of the kindest people I have met in the fight game. He is a down to earth family man that happens to be one of the toughest fighters in MMA.

This is a stressful time for the Henderson family. Henderson's wife, Alison, is pregnant with their third child. She is due to have a c-section next week, then Henderson will leave for England a day later on Sept. 3. The Henderson's moved Alison's c-section up a week, so Dan could be there for his wife.

Henderson said he had asked for the fight to be held in November or even the Sept. 22 date at the Honda Center, but he said UFC president Dana White insisted the fight would have to be on Sept. 8.

Henderson is the consumate professional, so he is dealing with the situation. Alison said she wished she could give her husband more attention and support like she has for his past fights.

I notice a blood-stained canvas hanging on the wall of the Team Quest gym. It's from PRIDE: Shockwave 2005 when Henderson beat Murilo Bustamante in the PRIDE 183-pound Grand Prix finals. "That's some of my blood on that canvas," Henderson said. He said he also has the canvas from PRIDE 33 when he defeated Wanderlei Silva. Now, that's what I call a piece of memorabilia.

Henderson said he expects a standup battle when he faces Rampage. He doesn't believe Rampage's size will be a factor because he has usually been the smaller fighter in most of his fights.

I told Henderson that Rampage spent a few weeks training with Couture. "I guess you find out who your real friends are," Henderson said.

I asked Henderson about Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, a Team Quest fighter who has stormed onto the MMA scene with first-round KOs over Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira this year. Henderson said Sokoudjou will probably end up on the K-1 HERO'S card in September.

I asked Henderson about his kids, Reese, 6, and Sierra, 8. He said Reese started wrestling last summer and he's doing pretty well. I'm guessing that kid came out of the womb scoring takedowns. Dan said Sierra also is an athlete, but she will probably end up in track and field because of her speed.

Henderson finished off media day with some light work on the mits for the cameras. He looked sharp as he rattled off combinations.

One photographer asked Henderson what the big tractor tire, which weighs between 500-600 pounds, in the middle of the gym is for. Henderson said he lifts the tire and topples it all the way across the room during circuit training. Then he proceeds to demonstrate how he does it. This is one bad dude.

After checking out both training camps, I am convinced Jackson-Henderson will be an extremely exciting fight. I believe Jackson has the edge because of his size and strength. Henderson's overhand right is vicious and could end the fight at any time. I'm leaning towards Rampage. One thing is for sure, this fight probably won't go the distance the way these guys bang.

Keep punching,

Los



Some interesting comments there. Wanderlei's 'extra help'. Not even Creatine. Bisping going down to 185 etc

Cbear
08-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Hendo wasn't happy with Couture either.

troyk
08-22-2007, 08:28 PM
i wonder if hendo's family stresses will affect him in any way?

Cbear
08-22-2007, 08:36 PM
i wonder if hendo's family stresses will affect him in any way?

I know if I had to leave my wife and new baby one day after a C-section (major surgery), my head would surely not be completely together for a fight. It would be even worse if there were complications where the worry would be compounded.

Hendo seems mentally very tough, but thats still hard to deal with. Just look at what a mess poor Gonzaga was when he suffered the family tragedy before a UFC fight.

Onion
08-22-2007, 10:03 PM
Rampage reality show???.......That could be hysterical.

troyk
08-22-2007, 11:33 PM
Rampage reality show???.......That could be hysterical.

is it just me, or is rampage trying too hard to be funny? i used to think he was funny and a bit of a character, but lately it just sounds like he is trying too hard to show off his wit. i dunno, i'm still a big fan of his but i wish he would just act normal and be himself, thats usually more funny anyway.

cameronb
08-23-2007, 12:15 AM
is it just me, or is rampage trying too hard to be funny? i used to think he was funny and a bit of a character, but lately it just sounds like he is trying too hard to show off his wit. i dunno, i'm still a big fan of his but i wish he would just act normal and be himself, thats usually more funny anyway.

He's probably just a little nervous being in America.

Name Goes Here
08-23-2007, 07:31 AM
I think he's thinking that if he's really funny, he can starting raking in the big money. Rather than just being casually funny as before. I just hope some of his ability rubs off on Bisping.

Amon
08-23-2007, 11:00 AM
hmmm... bis as a 185er could be interesting... its a shame hed have to wait in a long line for a title shot...

Tony Montana
08-23-2007, 11:29 AM
I like Bisping but I don't see him becoming a title contender. I think he's going to be in trouble when he faces the A class fighters.

I think Juanito saying he won't allow his fighters to take any supplements is an exaggeration. Everyone uses supplements these days. And steriods, although they help, don't make that much of a difference. Wand & especially Shogun are bad matchups for Rampage.

azlion
08-23-2007, 11:34 AM
I like Bisping @ 185. That could add some much needed depth to the MW division.

jolietconvict
08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
hmmm... bis as a 185er could be interesting... its a shame hed have to wait in a long line for a title shot...

Seriously? Who is waiting in the wings? Kampmann may be the next to get a shot. After that who? Okami? He already lost to Rich. Tanner maybe? Here's who I see that's active at 185 in the UFC:
Silva
Franklin
Kampmann
Cote
Grove
Herman
Leben
Leites
Lister
MacDonald
McFedries
Starnes

At 205 you've got Shogun, Rampage, Hendo, Chuck, and Wandy who are all clearly in the mix for title shots. Then there's Tito, Rashad, Jardine, and other 2nd tier contenders. I think Bisping would have a much quicker road to a title shot at 185.

azlion
08-23-2007, 12:30 PM
YEa I think he would have a faster title shot @ 185

joltenj667
08-23-2007, 12:59 PM
Hendo wasn't happy with Couture either.

Honestly, who cares?? I know he couldn't be happy about it but man, in combat sports when you aren't competing in official competition, it is not out of the ordinary to see guys who normally would be competing against each other sparring, drilling, and training to get better and get conditioned. It isn't like Rampage doesn't already know how he fights anyways, and when you get out there you aren't thinking about doing this or doing that, maybe you might be from the onset you have something planned, but as soon as you start to trade blows or somebody goes in for a shot, you stop thinking and start going by instinct.

Henderson shouldn't hold it against Couture, I know they already weren't on good terms but Henderson seems very much like a meathead to me, thinking that somehow there is a code that you don't give away secrets or you don't go against former team members. He just needs to buck up, get in good with Randy again, because Couture is a model example of complete training- good dieting, conditioning, and technical skill training. Nobody puts it all together better than Randy, maybe this is why Rampage stays close to him? Also maybe the reason why Rampage looked like an absolutely changed fighter when he won the title, he looked like he was in better shape than he ever has been.

joltenj667
08-23-2007, 01:05 PM
YEa I think he would have a faster title shot @ 185

Bisping should definately go to 185 if he thinks it won't take too much power out of his hands. Alot of times you can make the weight but that doesn't mean it's in your best interest if you have to tap into your energy to do it. Sometimes you end up too fatigued from weight-cutting, he should make the transition slowly against a good but not great fighter to see how his body adjusts because there is no way of predicting that besides simulating it and seeing what happens.

Also, Henderson should go down to 185 if he loses to Rampage, which I kind of am expecting. Against other guys he might be able to beat bigger opponents but Rampage is the biggest 205 lb. fighter you'll ever see. Also, I just think Rampage has more scraps than Henderson, I think if he keeps it standing he will win. If it goes to the mat I give the edge to whomever ends up on top, both guys have extremely good ground and pound and can finish from the top position.

Roundhouse
08-23-2007, 01:45 PM
Seriously? Who is waiting in the wings? Kampmann may be the next to get a shot. After that who? Okami? He already lost to Rich. Tanner maybe? Here's who I see that's active at 185 in the UFC:
Silva
Franklin
Kampmann
Cote
Grove
Herman
Leben
Leites
Lister
MacDonald
McFedries
Starnes

At 205 you've got Shogun, Rampage, Hendo, Chuck, and Wandy who are all clearly in the mix for title shots. Then there's Tito, Rashad, Jardine, and other 2nd tier contenders. I think Bisping would have a much quicker road to a title shot at 185.

Provided he loses to Rampage, I'd suggest Dan gets the next crack at Anderson. After that, if nobody else has emerged, I think they'll bring Filho over from WEC. Paulo has already said he'd be willing to fight Anderson (pretty sure they train together now).

troyk
08-23-2007, 01:49 PM
Provided he loses to Rampage, I'd suggest Dan gets the next crack at Anderson. After that, if nobody else has emerged, I think they'll bring Filho over from WEC. Paulo has already said he'd be willing to fight Anderson (pretty sure they train together now).

at this stage, i think anderson would whoop filho pretty easily. filho looked slow as hell against doerkson.

Tallica1981
08-23-2007, 02:23 PM
YEa I think he would have a faster title shot @ 185

I think you're right, but I think it will be slow no matter what weight he fights. I have a feeling Dana is going to use him as long as possible to build a fanbase in the UK. Just look at his opponents. I mean Sinosec and now Hammel. He should be fighting guys like Tito and Rashad, but I think Dana is afraid to see him possibly lose in front of his hometown.

Onion
08-23-2007, 02:43 PM
Provided he loses to Rampage, I'd suggest Dan gets the next crack at Anderson. After that, if nobody else has emerged, I think they'll bring Filho over from WEC. Paulo has already said he'd be willing to fight Anderson (pretty sure they train together now).

I see why you are saying that, but really, should a guy that loses to one champ get to drop weight and then fight a different champ?

UFC would never let a guy do something like that *cough* Couture *cough*

azlion
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
I think you're right, but I think it will be slow no matter what weight he fights. I have a feeling Dana is going to use him as long as possible to build a fanbase in the UK. Just look at his opponents. I mean Sinosec and now Hammel. He should be fighting guys like Tito and Rashad, but I think Dana is afraid to see him possibly lose in front of his hometown.
I agree but I think it is a pretty stacked division right now. I mean tito, Chuck, Shogun, Rashad (who had to fight a few cans before he got up there) Wand, Page, Hendo. I think they are more paying Fan fare to the Tuf 3 fans who always wanted to know if the blacksheep can beet Tito's golden boy. I think he will run through Hammil like a bad case of Diareah and then if he drops he will be close to #1 contender in MW because that division has very little tallent and almost no stars

Roundhouse
08-23-2007, 04:05 PM
I see why you are saying that, but really, should a guy that loses to one champ get to drop weight and then fight a different champ?

UFC would never let a guy do something like that *cough* Couture *cough*

If they did it for Randy, why not Hendo? I mean he is the 185 lbs Pride champ? He deserves the opportunity more than anyone else would.

cameronb
08-23-2007, 06:53 PM
If they did it for Randy, why not Hendo? I mean he is the 185 lbs Pride champ? He deserves the opportunity more than anyone else would.

I think there's a good chance they will do that considering after Silva/Franklin two there is NO ONE else on their level besides Hendo.

BruceLee
08-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Good for Bisping.
I have been saying all along that Bisping needs to drop to 185 if he wants to have a chance at being an elite level fighter.

He is not strong enough or fast enough to compete at 205. At 185 he should have a huge power advantage like Rich Franklin.

*****

Juanita or whatever, should just shut up. Does he follow around Rampage and Tito when they go to the bathroom and into the shower. Because if not then there is no way to control what substances they are taking.

Rampage and Tito don't exactly look all natural either, so Jaunita shouldn't be pointing fingers.

And theres no bias since Jauntia is Rampage's trainer and manager.

psywzrd
08-24-2007, 12:45 PM
Good for Bisping.
I have been saying all along that Bisping needs to drop to 185 if he wants to have a chance at being an elite level fighter.

He is not strong enough or fast enough to compete at 205. At 185 he should have a huge power advantage like Rich Franklin.




I couldn't agree with you more. I got criticized on here for suggesting that Bisping should drop to MW, but it seems like a great move for him. LH is a much tougher division right now IMO and I just don't think he's big enough to compete with those guys at that weight. I don't want to make it sound like he's going to roll right through the guys at MW either, but I think it's a much better weight for him. The cut to 185 should help his cardio too since he seems to gas a bit in his fights. I don't think he cuts all that much to get to 205 so I have a feeling that he's not really a cardio nut like a lot of other fighters. The extra cardio should really help him out.

troyk
08-24-2007, 01:29 PM
Juanita or whatever, should just shut up. Does he follow around Rampage and Tito when they go to the bathroom and into the shower. Because if not then there is no way to control what substances they are taking.

Rampage and Tito don't exactly look all natural either, so Jaunita shouldn't be pointing fingers.

And theres no bias since Jauntia is Rampage's trainer and manager.

i really liked juanito's interviews and conduct after the liddell fight. he sounded like a really nice guy and a great trainer. these comments are just f'in stupid. yeah, lets start calling out everyone rampage has lost to for juicing or cheating or whatever. in fact, lets start calling quinton "tiger" instead of rampage.

Name Goes Here
08-24-2007, 02:36 PM
Well there is a difference between a fan saying bisping should cut and bisping saying he will cut. As a fan, all we can do is look, so there is no way for us to tell if he can do it. We don't even know what weight he really comes in at, weather he's already cutting etc.

Rampage is a small lhw, he's smaller than Chuck anyway.

Quiet possibly the guy in the link is full of ****. It did seem a bit 'sensational' to me.

dhk1980
08-24-2007, 02:53 PM
Well there is a difference between a fan saying bisping should cut and bisping saying he will cut. As a fan, all we can do is look, so there is no way for us to tell if he can do it. We don't even know what weight he really comes in at, weather he's already cutting etc.

Rampage is a small lhw, he's smaller than Chuck anyway.

Quiet possibly the guy in the link is full of ****. It did seem a bit 'sensational' to me.

since when?

azlion
08-24-2007, 03:08 PM
since when?

Yea I was gonna ask that too. I heard an interview from about a month agao and he was awalking around at like 235 or 240. He is a pretty big LHW

troyk
08-24-2007, 03:22 PM
rampage is one of the biggest lhw's out there. his fight w/ arona looked like any normal HW fight, since both prolly walk at 225+

Jay
08-24-2007, 04:26 PM
Bisping/Ace would be awesome to watch.

Name Goes Here
08-24-2007, 05:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8uZIIP3wbk

Ramp is clearly the shorter, my impression watching the whole fight was that he was smaller too. (Perhaps I'm wrong though)

BruceLee
08-24-2007, 05:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8uZIIP3wbk

Ramp is clearly the shorter, my impression watching the whole fight was that he was smaller too. (Perhaps I'm wrong though)

It doesn't really matter if he is a big LHW or not because there is no way Rampage would do well in any HW division. Basically he relies on his power advantage at LHW along with decent although not technical striking, non existent submissions and superior wrestling skills.

Most of those advantages would disappear for him against HW opponents.

wgrapple
08-24-2007, 05:58 PM
Bisping better go MW. I'm not even convinced that he could beat Forrest not too mention hang in there with Hendo, Wand, Shogun, Rampage, Chuck, Rashad, or even Lambert.

He's ****ed at LHW basically is what I'm saying

BruceLee
08-24-2007, 06:06 PM
Bisping better go MW. I'm not even convinced that he could beat Forrest not too mention hang in there with Hendo, Wand, Shogun, Rampage, Chuck, Rashad, or even Lambert.

He's ****ed at LHW basically is what I'm saying

Agreed. He is too small and slow for LHW. He would be a can. Eric Schafer looked so much bigger than him.

At MW because of the power advantage and his striking ability he would immediately be top 5.

If you can look at him right now, you can see that he is carrying around a higher percentage of body fat than most of the other LHWs. His frame is made more for 185 at this level of fighting.

azlion
08-25-2007, 09:28 AM
Bisping better go MW. I'm not even convinced that he could beat Forrest not too mention hang in there with Hendo, Wand, Shogun, Rampage, Chuck, Rashad, or even Lambert.

He's ****ed at LHW basically is what I'm saying

Too much tallent @ LHW for him to get a tetle shot anytime soon and no way he could beat any of the top 5, Chuck, Wandy and Shogun would drop him like panties on prom night and Page and Hendo would man handle him @ LHW.

Where as @ MW he would be much bigger and stronger and could present problems for Ace and A. Silva .

sympleman
08-25-2007, 09:45 AM
Too much tallent @ LHW for him to get a tetle shot anytime soon and no way he could beat any of the top 5, Chuck, Wandy and Shogun would drop him like panties on prom night and Page and Hendo would man handle him @ LHW.

Where as @ MW he would be much bigger and stronger and could present problems for Ace and A. Silva .

Agreed. No need for Bisping to stay at LHW he could only add to the MW divison and now that he's training with Rampage, he can only get better.

robbypark
08-25-2007, 08:00 PM
at this stage, i think anderson would whoop filho pretty easily. filho looked slow as hell against doerkson.

I'd say it would be the complete opposite. Anderson Silva doesn't have any semblance of TD defense. Doerksen on the other hand is a BJJ black belt who was able to work his way back to the feet. I'd give Silva maybe 3 minutes before getting tapped by Filho.