UFC 77: Hostile Territory - Live Discussion Thread!

[mmafighting]

UFC 77: Hostile Territory Results (with prelim results) (http://www.mmafighting.com/results/2007/ufc_77_hostile_territory.html)

[ilostmydog]

The Battle of Alberta + UFC = perfect Saturday night (when I can't go out due to midterms!)

[cameronb]

Im pumped for this one.

[ilostmydog]

So seriously, why in the **** do I want to see Alvin Robinson/Jorge Gurgel or Starnes/Belcher over Okami/J-Mac?

Answer: I don't.

[ilostmydog]

Both these guys have lost to Okami, but Belcher looked much better doing so. He didn't give up, and his corner didn't forget his stool. Watch Starnes give up again this fight.

[BulldogWrestler]

Okami and JMac went the distance, like assumed.

I think UFC is trying to cram as many fights as they can in a card on a night.

[Mulligan]

Sucks ass Okami/mac isn't on the TV lineup

[BulldogWrestler]

Dog, I'm not watching this - so if you can keep me up to date - that'd be AWESOME ;)

[joltenj667]

Sucks ass Okami/mac isn't on the TV lineup

Agreed, it may not be the most entertaining fight in the world but it definately warrants being on the televised bouts. Both of these guys are tough and have some technical skills.

[cameronb]

So seriously, why in the **** do I want to see Alvin Robinson/Jorge Gurgel or Starnes/Belcher over Okami/J-Mac?

Answer: I don't.

Agreed the undercard sucks.

[ilostmydog]

Agreed the undercard sucks.

I wouldn't say that. I like Schafer/Bonnar and this fight, it's just lame that Okami/J-Mac isn't on it. Jorge Gurgel can get out of here.

[Cbear]

Starnes has ahuge Fedor gash in his forehead by Belcher. Its not Eastman bad but might be if he takes any more knees on that canyon. The doctor says he can see his skull through the cut and stops the fight. Kalibs corner seems bitching about the stoppage and he yells back at them f**k you I wanted to fight but they see my skull. Wow.

[cameronb]

My feed is all ****ed up!

[cameronb]

I missed the entire fight.

[ilostmydog]

I missed just about everything until the doctor seeing Starnes' skull and Starnes flipping out.

[joltenj667]

WOW, Seeing his skull!!!! Disgusting!!! HAHAHAHA

[Cbear]

The doctor actually grimaced when he checked Starnes cut and stopped the fight. Do you know how bad something has to be for a medical doctor to get that "oh sh*t" look on their face? Even Rogan commented on that one.

[LiveinTokyo]

Disgusting....any pics:):):)

[ilostmydog]

Yves Lavigne rules : "You can't fight if you're ****ed up!"

[Cbear]

Wanderlei at ringside signals his approval for the camera. Earlier they showed Hughes and Big Nog behind him.

[ilostmydog]

Have they strategically placed Mayhem Miller behind anyone yet?

[ilostmydog]

Don't worry, according to my calculations, Eric Schafer isn't supposed to sub Bonnar until the second round.

[ilostmydog]

Damn you Bonnar!

[cameronb]

Nice win for Bonnar.

[ilostmydog]

Confront him about his sordid past Joe!

[Cbear]

Bonner had Red turtled up and hiding from the gnp. That boy wanted out. Dana called Bonner over after the fight. I wonder if he bitched him out for thanking Randy? :)

Wanderlei always seems so happy to get camera time. He really is a Jekyl and Hyde when fighting and in public.

[cameronb]

ROTFLMAO! Bonnar forgot the name of the place his after party was being held at. HAHAHAHAHAHa

[LiveinTokyo]

ROTFLMAO! Bonnar forgot the name of the place his after party was being held at. HAHAHAHAHAHa

Makes a nice change from Chuck who just seems to remember to party lately, and forgets that he has to fight first:):):)

[cameronb]

Call me crazy but I don't give a **** about Gurgel/Robinson.

[BulldogWrestler]

You dont care about two top tier conte - oh wait. Um...

Let's try that again.

You dont care about two talented, well known vet- crap. Um...

One more time.

You dont care about Yushin Ok- ****!

I give up.

[Blind]

Call me crazy but I don't give a **** about Gurgel/Robinson.

Me either.

c'mon tim v vera!!

[ilostmydog]

Someone mentioned this on BK, but have you guys noticed how few commercials/celebrity sightings they've had this event? This is the third fight in less than an hour starting, and it's not like the other two fights lasted 30 seconds. I like.

[ilostmydog]

Also, they're teasing the Wanderlei Silva thing a lot. They're going to announce who he's fighting at some point tonight for sure.

[ilostmydog]

Hopefully he gets the winner of this match.

[ilostmydog]

LOL. Jorge Gurgel's nickname is 'JG.' Wow. Very creative.

[BulldogWrestler]

JG!!!!

HAHAHA That's like his initials, OMFG WHAT A GREAT NICKNAME

Can I be BDW?

[wgrapple]

You guys all watching it via On Demand?

[Cbear]

ROTFLMAO! Bonnar forgot the name of the place his after party was being held at. HAHAHAHAHAHa

Which means he will probably show up at someone elses after party and go...."wtf...why is Bradon Vera here?" :-D

[ilostmydog]

Oh yeah Jorge, way to ride out that sidemount. Woo!

[ilostmydog]

Jorge really wants to get in the 69 position it seems.

[Cbear]

JG!!!!

HAHAHA That's like his initials, OMFG WHAT A GREAT NICKNAME

Can I be BDW?


Well, its better than Kenflo which sounds like a womens product. :)

[COULTURE4LIFE]

Hopefully he gets the winner of this match.

He fights Liddell on the new years card.

[wgrapple]

Ilost please check your PMs dude!

[Cbear]

Well, Jorge's tactic of ignoring the gnp while he looks for the armbar is killing him as Al is beating the snot out of him. Jorge isn't even trying to defend the gnp in rounds 2 & 3.

[cameronb]

That was pathetic.

[don king]

Disgusting....any pics:):):)

Post of the year material!!!

[Cbear]

Rogan interviews Brock Larson.....er....Lesner and they have signed him to the UFC. Lesner cuts a good promo that isn't too over the top and he seems legit. They play up his amatuer background but did mention his pro career. Rogan builds him up big.

[telerion]

There he is. Brock Larson, lol.

[cameronb]

My feed is about 5 min behind yalls.

[Cbear]

There he is. Brock Larson, lol.


Rogan sure pulled a "Rogan" there. Lesner immediately saved the interview and came across likeable and real instead of his WWE glaring character. If Dana can't make money off of Brock.....then the fad will have definitely run its course.

[Cbear]

My feed is about 5 min behind yalls.


Thats due to your rap-hop internet connection owned by P. Diddy. He takes the feeds, delays them to lay down a "yo" every few minutes and rebroadcasts them as his original programming. Blame rap-hop. :D

[cameronb]

Thats due to your rap-hop internet connection owned by P. Diddy. He takes the feeds, delays them to lay down a "yo" every few minutes and rebroadcasts them as his original programming. Blame rap-hop. :D

LOL on that note Vera just gained a huge fan by coming out to Jay-Z. :D

[Cbear]

Timmah can't even get cheers waving the flag.

[cameronb]

Timmah can't even get cheers waving the flag.

LOL that's when you know people don't like you.

[Mulligan]

LOL that's when you know people don't like you.

I think Hillary would have gotten more cheers in Cinci than Timmah

[Thumpin]

He fights Liddell on the new years card.

The contract hasn't been signed yet (or announced as signed anyway)

[Cbear]

The crowd is booing as loud as I have ever heard as all these two are doign is clinching each other in round 1. The finally separate with a minute and half left to strike but then its back to the crowd hating clinch. Both guys seem afraid to do anything except hold each other. Huges boos as the crowd hates this match (Vera/Timmah).

Pat congratulates Timmah on a good round. Sheesh.

[Cbear]

Man this fight is horrible as all they are doing is holding each other at the cage with Timmah smothering him against the fence. The crowd sounds ready to riot. Opps, Brandon gets a takedown with side control to win the fans back.

[cameronb]

I hate Tim Sylvia.

[Sofargone]

You all may hate timbo but other than the takedown Vera hasnt done much. Timbo hasnt done much either but has been the more active fighter.

Sofargone

[Cbear]

For those wondering, the logo on Timmahs shorts, Bowtech, is for a compound hunting bow company. Tim uses it to kill innocent bears in his downtime.

[Cbear]

You all may hate timbo but other than the takedown Vera hasnt done much. Timbo hasnt done much either but has been the more active fighter.

Sofargone

Vera does seem totally unprepared for Timmahs size and he can't do anything to stop being clinched to the fence.

[Cbear]

Syvlia bloodies Veras forehead and has been more aggressive in round 3. Since Vera hasn't doen anything, looks like an easy win for Timmah. Skinny should be thrilled.

[Sofargone]

Timbo by decision !! Not a very entertaining fight at all but Timbo should get the decision.

Sofargone

[Cbear]

Vera says he broke his hand.

Surprisingly easy win for Sylvia even though they stunk up most of the fight with the horrid clinch. No doubt that Timmah was more aggressive though. Its an easy win for the bear killer.

[Mulligan]

See this is my beef. If Timmah would let his hands go, he's decent and would be more well liked. He had his moments in this fight

[cameronb]

What a ****ing joke.

[cameronb]

Boo Hoo if he broke his hand. Franklin broke his hand and he kept throwing.

[Cbear]

See this is my beef. If Timmah would let his hands go, he's decent and would be more well liked. He had his moments in this fight

Pat wanted him to clinch and so he did most of the time. I think he actually broke gameplan to throw the hams.

Timmah calls out Kongo...hmmm that could be fun.

[LiveinTokyo]

How about Brock vs Timmah??? Would be a match where Timmah couldn't just use his size to smother a smaller opponent. Certainly don't want to see him fighting for the title, and I think he would have probs with an opponent who was bigger than him.

[wgrapple]

**** me! I'll never hear the end of this...

[Cbear]

"Did Tim whip my ass?" "I'm still at heavyweight then, bitches."

Vera is always fun on the mic.

[Sofargone]

Maybe thats what it would take to unleash the beast.

Sofargone

[cameronb]

Vera is a funny dude.

[Mulligan]

**** me! I'll never hear the end of this...

Where the hell is Skinny anyway?

[Cbear]

How about Brock vs Timmah??? Would be a match where Timmah couldn't just use his size to smother a smaller opponent. Certainly don't want to see him fighting for the title, and I think he would have probs with an opponent who was bigger than him.

We damn sure won't see Timmah wanting to clinch with Brock. He will probably backpedal ala Liddell hoping to catch Lesner with a strike when he shoots on him. Brock can clinch him to death or take him down but I'm not sure he will know what to do with Timmah from there. Tim could actually win a decision by being on his back trying half assed ugly triangle attempts while Brock just tries to drop hammer fists. STill, I'd like to see it.

[Blind]

"Did Tim whip my ass?" "I'm still at heavyweight then, bitches."

Vera is always fun on the mic.

gahaha

How the hell did he break his arm?

[Cbear]

man, if Silva/Franklin goes all 5 rounds, this ppv is going to end at the last minutes since they always try to go off air a few minutes shy of the 3 hour mark. 25 minutes plus breaks, plus entrances and ending promo is cutting it close if it goes to decision.

[Cbear]

Where the hell is Skinny anyway?

He probably had a heart attack out of pure happiness and joy. :-D

Heck, it was probably the 1,000,000 megawatt hero worship by Skinny beaming down on Timmah that helped the critter killer get the win.

[Mulligan]

Man Jorges is busted up

[Cbear]

Rich got so excited he started going into the cage without getting greased up without the ceremonial seal blubber. :)

Dang thats a depressing song for Silva to enter with.

[Sofargone]

Is it just me or does Franklin look lost again ? It appears to that Silva is just toying with Franklin and can ko him at anytime.

Sofargone

[Mulligan]

Holy **** Franklin took some shots

[Cbear]

Silva employed the Matrix bobbing and weaving in round 1. Franklin destroyed at the end of round 1, saved by the bell. Hume has to guide hm to the corner.. Big right hand by Silva dropped him.

Looks like another easy win coming for Silva. He is toying with Franklin.

[Mulligan]

Silva fvcking owned Rich there

[Sofargone]

Franklin got KTFo again. Totally outclassed.

Sofargone

[Cbear]

Rich is a punching bag for Silva. Silva just destroyed him in round 2 and proves Franklin isn't even in the same league as him. Wow, what a domination.

[Cbear]

check out Rich looking at the screen to see which way his nose is pointing. :)

[Cbear]

So, do they just retire the belt with Silva? There damn sure isn't anyone in the UFC who can beat him.

[cameronb]

I ****ing hate my life.

[Sofargone]

That was a beatdown from the opening bell. Either Silva has his number or Franklin is overrated. Silva schooled him and spanked his ass like a red headed stepchild.

Sofargone

[wgrapple]

I ****ing hate my life.

Sorry dude I wanted Vera to win...but I know you wanted Vera and Rich to win. Sounds like Rich got destroyed.

[The Juggernaut]

I can't see anyone on the ufc middleweight roster beating Anderson anytime soon.

[Mulligan]

I ****ing hate my life.

Cmon man, it's just MMA

[Cbear]

I ****ing hate my life.

Nah, you knew this one was coming. The one big thing is how much respect Rich & Anderson show each other. Rich cut a better promo in losing than most do in winning.

[Mulligan]

Sorry dude I wanted Vera to win...but I know you wanted Vera and Rich to win. Sounds like Rich got destroyed.

He got smoked twice. Nate Quarried if you will

[BruceLee]

Pwned!!!

Franklin was a mere child in Anderson's hands.

And now Anderson can speak English (or maybe he always could).

[TestSubjekt]

I guess I'm the only one that's not impressed with Sylvia's win. Another fight he couldn't finish. That's a great heavyweight..?

[wgrapple]

I can't see anyone on the ufc middleweight roster beating Anderson anytime soon.

Paulo Filho might as well come over to the UFC...why the frock wouldn't he be matched up at this point?

[Cbear]

Sorry dude I wanted Vera to win...but I know you wanted Vera and Rich to win. Sounds like Rich got destroyed.


Yeah he did, it just took longer this time. However, round 1 ended with Rich dropped to his knees from a punch with one leg twisted up and had there been 10 more seconds, he would have been finished. Round 2 just meant more punishment from Anderson and Rich once again got dropped like he was shot. Rich did land a few decent shots but no damage.

In round 1 it was funny when Anderson was completely avoiding a flurry of Richs punches by bobbing and weaving almost like the matrix. :)

Forget beating Silva or even going the distance, I can't think of anyone in the UFC who can last 3 rounds with him.

[Mulligan]

Call in Woogie!

[cameronb]

Cmon man, it's just MMA

I was being somewhat sarcastic. I just really like Rich, I've had the pleasure to meet him and he is the nicest guy ever. He is one of the guys I look up to. I love Anderson also but it just bothers me.

[cameronb]

Yeah he did, it just took longer this time. However, round 1 ended with Rich dropped to his knees from a punch with one leg twisted up and had there been 10 more seconds, he would have been finished. Round 2 just meant more punishment from Anderson and Rich once again got dropped like he was shot. Rich did land a few decent shots but no damage.

In round 1 it was funny when Anderson was completely avoiding a flurry of Richs punches by bobbing and weaving almost like the matrix. :)

Forget beating Silva or even going the distance, I can't think of anyone in the UFC who can last 3 rounds with him.

Dan Henderson is the only fighter I see giving him a challenge.

[Cbear]

Pwned!!!

Franklin was a mere child in Anderson's hands.

And now Anderson can speak English (or maybe he always could).

I bet Anderson worked harder learning those phrases than he did in training for the fight. :) It was great of him to learn the specific phrases to praise the home town fans and thank them for coming out. When he grabbed the mic and started smiling, I wondered what he was fixing to say.

[Cbear]

Too bad for Richs wife.....happy birthday baby, I got my ass whipped. :)

[Mulligan]

I was being somewhat sarcastic. I just really like Rich, I've had the pleasure to meet him and he is the nicest guy ever. He is one of the guys I look up to. I love Anderson also but it just bothers me.

Agreed both guys are awesome. I was geeked for that fight, and Like you really wanted Rich to win.

You can tell when he takes that hard ass right knee he's like "fvck this"

[BigTed]

I think now that Rich got handled again, Hendo/ A. Silva needs to happen


By the way, Im back, its been almost a year, no computer of my own......word to the wise,....sign a prenump...LOL.....

[Cbear]

Dan Henderson is the only fighter I see giving him a challenge.

I guess it depends where Dan fights next since he seems to still like lt heavy. I think a belt unification with Anderson would be good and they should do it.

[Mulligan]

By the way, Im back, its been almost a year, no computer of my own......word to the wise,....sign a prenump...LOL.....

Welcome back dude. screw prenups, just avoid buying the cow

[BruceLee]

Agreed both guys are awesome. I was geeked for that fight, and Like you really wanted Rich to win.

You can tell when he takes that hard ass right knee he's like "fvck this"

It started out pretty good for Rich but Anderson's striking is easily K-1 Level.

The only reason he isn't in K-1 is because K-1 is Open weight above 155 lbs, so he would be facing 6-5 guys like Aerts, Bonjasky, Badr Hari, Glaube Feitosa, 265 lbs guys like LeBanner and 6-11 Schilt and 7-2 Hong Man Choi.

At 185 he has to be the best striker in the World K-1 or not.

[BruceLee]

I think now that Rich got handled again, Hendo/ A. Silva needs to happen


By the way, Im back, its been almost a year, no computer of my own......word to the wise,....sign a prenump...LOL.....

Welcome back Ted.

Acid just came back 4 days ago after a year hiatus.

And DG has been gone since Shogun lost.

Rejoin the fantasy league. PM me. K-1 Heroes is next week.

[Thumpin]

check out Rich looking at the screen to see which way his nose is pointing. :)

oh **** man...that was funny as hell

[Best80smovieRAD]

what a horrible card. i kept telling myself not to order it. I just was really pulling for Vera to whoop sylvias ass.

I'm definitely not ordering the next card eventhough I love Karo. Just cant see myself ordering a card being main evented by Bisping.

So what the hell does Franklin do now? I mean geez I like the guy but with that belt wrapped around Silvas waist hes never going to get it. Too bad Hughes is gonna end up beating Serra because I would of liked him to move up to fight Silva like he said he would if Rich loses.

[F Stop]

That Vera Sylvia fight was possibly the worst fight I've ever seen. The Franklin Silva fight was good, but too short.

My buddy regrets buying the fight also. Gotta love friends with money!

[Blind]

That Vera Sylvia fight was possibly the worst fight I've ever seen. The Franklin Silva fight was good, but too short.

My buddy regrets buying the fight also. Gotta love friends with money!

Watch A. Emelianenko vs Dan Bobish. :lol:


It was pretty decent card... I wish they would squeeze more fights in though.

[Gomi]

I'm definitely not ordering the next card eventhough I love Karo. Just cant see myself ordering a card being main evented by Bisping.

You just used event as a verb... nice.

I agree though, the card was a waist of time and money. I knew I shoulda stayed home and waited for Tokyudo.

[dhk1980]

I was being somewhat sarcastic. I just really like Rich, I've had the pleasure to meet him and he is the nicest guy ever. He is one of the guys I look up to. I love Anderson also but it just bothers me.

awwwww... poor little cammy. don't u dare pull a DG on us. :)

[dhk1980]

let's face it folks, Rich franklin has new daddy.

[BruceLee]

let's face it folks, Rich franklin has new daddy.

DHK is always there to rub it in no matter what the fighter or sports team. He's like the "You can do it" guy except . . . Not.

[D241]

Glad I went to a bar instead of paying for this one myself.

I left before the Franklin fight, glad I guess....

I'd just like to say that I guess in retrospect, Vera deserves to lose because broken hand or not he should've used leg kicks. They've always worked well for him, they worked well the tiny bit he did use them. Regardless of who started the clinch, neither did any effective damage and Vera obviously tried to keep it in the clinch most of the time. Not a good hw match, hopefully it's a bad matchup style, but Vera loses some credability in gameplanning in my book after tonight. Tim showed some want to finish, I liked that.

[Gomi]

Tim showed some want to finish, I liked that.

Nah, he showed that he had desire to ake the round so he could take the 29-28 victory.

[Best80smovieRAD]

You just used event as a verb... nice.

I agree though, the card was a waist of time and money. I knew I shoulda stayed home and waited for Tokyudo.

:wink:

Just can't see myself ordering a card with the main event being headlined by Michael Bisping.

better? :wink:

you spelled waste wrong though since we're making corrections :)

[Best80smovieRAD]

You just used event as a verb... nice.

I agree though, the card was a waist of time and money. I knew I shoulda stayed home and waited for Tokyudo.

:wink:

Just can't see myself ordering a card with the main event being headlined by Michael Bisping.

better? :wink:

you spelled waste wrong though since we're making corrections :)

[ilostmydog]

I enjoyed the tribute to the Rashad dance that Anderson did at the end of the first round.

[ilostmydog]

Nah, he showed that he had desire to ake the round so he could take the 29-28 victory.

Ultimate PressYourOpponentAgainstTheCageUsingYourSuperiorWe ightAsLeverage Championships. :D

Hmmm, it appears I cannot help but have a space in that. Perhaps the admin has also banned excessively long words?

[BruceLee]

I enjoyed the tribute to the Rashad dance that Anderson did at the end of the first round.

Except Anderson was actually fast and had rhtyhm.

Rashad was slow and moving like a Robot.

Manhoef would still Pwn both in a dance off though.

[ilostmydog]

Except Anderson was actually fast and had rhtyhm.

Rashad was slow and moving like a Robot.

Manhoef would still Pwn both in a dance off though.

Rashad was slow moving because that gif was in slow motion you dork!

[ilostmydog]

$40k bonuses:

KO of the Night: Anderson Silva
Sub of the Night: Demian Maia
Fight of the Night: Jason Black and Matt Grice

[Jay]

Mother ****ing cunt faced losing bitches.

Which sig bets did I lose again?

Also anybody have a pic of Kalibs cut?

[dhk1980]

Except Anderson was actually fast and had rhtyhm.

Rashad was slow and moving like a Robot.

Manhoef would still Pwn both in a dance off though.

and what was more impressive about Anderson's dance was that it was while he was ducking rich's punches. :)

[Trol]

and what was more impressive about Anderson's dance was that it was while he was ducking rich's punches. :)

That was hilarious! Rich was throwing punches and kicks and couldn't connect while Anderson danced.

[F Stop]

The Vera vs. Sylvia fight was a "count the knees championship" fight. Dear god what a waste of time that was...

[JC-Freakhead]

That Vera Sylvia fight was possibly the worst fight I've ever seen. The Franklin Silva fight was good, but too short.

My buddy regrets buying the fight also. Gotta love friends with money!

Vera/Sylvia was much better than every fight Koscheck has ever won. And also better than a whole lot of other fights. It wasn't entertaining, but it wasn't THAT bad...

[BulldogWrestler]

Yeah, boring fight - but not one that I was yelling at the screen at because I was so pissed (i.e Sylvia/Monson, Sylvia Arlovski III)

It was just a meh fight. Not bad, but not good.

If it wasn't Sylvia fighting, most people wouldn't have that opinion.

[F Stop]

This is the worst fight I can remember seeing recently, and definitely in the top 3 worst fights I've ever seen.

[Onion]

I ****ing hate my life.

siggy time :-D :-D :-D


........again :)

[Gomi]

Damn you Bonnar!

Uh oh...

Somebody dig up the thread where I was arguing that Bonnar was a good fighter and the whole forum vehemently disagreed with me.

You are all fools and pawns in Stephan's game !