Best and worst fights of Anderson Silva [Archive]

Name Goes Here

11-20-2007, 04:35 AM

cuotfs

11-20-2007, 07:58 AM

This isn't a signal to stop posting in the Sergei thread. Discuss here the best and worst fights of Anderson Silva:

Worst; any of his submission losses in pride.

Best; Lutter. Winning with strikes off your back is pretty bad-ass in my book.

According to Lutter it wasn't the strikes that caused him to tap.. Lutter said that he tapped cuz he was going out from the triangle....

Xander Einhande

11-20-2007, 09:12 AM

Then his Okami win with the upkick off his back was good too. Probly the only ive seen

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 11:01 AM

Then his Okami win with the upkick off his back was good too. Probly the only ive seen

Except for the fact that he lost that fight because he upkicked a grounded opponent. :lol:

BulldogWrestler

11-20-2007, 11:02 AM

Details details.

Onion

11-20-2007, 11:15 AM

According to Lutter it wasn't the strikes that caused him to tap.. Lutter said that he tapped cuz he was going out from the triangle....

you are right, but I'm sure it didn't help matters. :-D

Gomi

11-20-2007, 11:24 AM

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Okami and Lutter were 2 of his worst recent fights ...

Sounding more like sherdog everyday, eh?

Adam15

11-20-2007, 12:16 PM

I think even Anderson himself would admit that his worst performance was against Daiju Takase, he was bullied from start to finish.

His strike rate against Leben was superb, I think every strike he threw landed. He was very poor against Lutter. But his standing elbow KO against Frykland had to have been one of the best KO's I have ever seen in MMA.

His performances against Leben, Rich Franklin I, and Curtis Stout were almost immaculate, so I'll go with those. But some of his early Muay Thai bouts were just as dominant.

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 12:16 PM

his best wins are against Franklin, especially the first one

gangstax2

11-20-2007, 02:04 PM

his best wins are against Franklin, especially the first one

agreed. both franklin fights were good, but i think i appreciated the second one more. i preffered the rematch due to anderson's amazing head movement, and the combination of knees, elbows, punches, and leg kicks that he landed on rich against the fence. well, that, and the fact that he knocked franklin out twice in that fight. simply stunning. :lol:

his fight against jorge rivera was damn good, as he shows his amazing chin, and proceeds to tear jorge to pieces moments later. lee murray, who was also touted as a dangerous striker, was methodically picked apart by anderson over the course of three rounds. both good fights.

it just seems to me that throughout almost every fight, silva shows something new in his game. i dig that.

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 02:13 PM

Tony Fryklund meets the Anderson elbow.

/end thread

gangstax2

11-20-2007, 02:17 PM

Tony Fryklund meets the Anderson elbow.

/end thread

any time i pull that clip up, i'm compelled to watch it at least 8-10 times.

touche, sir.

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 02:37 PM

This isn't a signal to stop posting in the Sergei thread. Discuss here the best and worst fights of Anderson Silva:

Worst; any of his submission losses in pride.

Best; Lutter. Winning with strikes off your back is pretty bad-ass in my book.

i think that had more to do with lutter being gutless than anything else.

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 02:43 PM

i think that had more to do with lutter being gutless than anything else.

Tapping to a triangle choke that's been sunked in for over a good period of time now qualifies someone as being 'gutless?' :lol::rolleyes:

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 03:06 PM

Tapping to a triangle choke that's been sunked in for over a good period of time now qualifies someone as being 'gutless?' :lol::rolleyes:

the guy is supposed to be a BJJ blackbelt. can he have a little pride here?

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 03:09 PM

the guy is supposed to be a BJJ blackbelt. can he have a little pride here?

BJJ blackbelts aren't allowed to tap out now? :lol: Even to other BJJ black belts?

Name Goes Here

11-20-2007, 03:16 PM

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Okami and Lutter were 2 of his worst recent fights ...

Sounding more like sherdog everyday, eh?

Irony.

Anyway, I don't think of his wins over Rich as his best, because it's hard to say if Rich didn't make him look good. The Lutter fight was good because he was in the spot where he used to get submitted, and he didn't. Though perhaps Luter isn't the greatest challenge.

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 03:27 PM

BJJ blackbelts aren't allowed to tap out now? :lol: Even to other BJJ black belts?

well, the great ones with pride usually don't. especially the ones who have tremendous heart. heck, the gracies never tapped.

gangstax2

11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

well, the great ones with pride usually don't. especially the ones who have tremendous heart. heck, the gracies never tapped.

blasphemy! i wanna say that royler gracie was tapped out by an eddie bravo triangle choke. can anyone verify or squash?

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 03:40 PM

well, the great ones with pride usually don't. especially the ones who have tremendous heart. heck, the gracies never tapped.

Royler Gracie and Eddie Bravo disagree with you. :lol:

Keep going dhk. So far you've changed from:

- Travis Lutter is gutless for tapping out to a triangle choke
to
- BJJ black belts should have pride and not tap out
to
- BJJ black belts with pride and heart don't tap out.

:lol:

So clearly BJJ black belts (who have pride and heart) are sustaining a lot of unnecessary injuries in MMA bouts and grappling tournaments because of their refusal to tap out. :lol:

Jay

11-20-2007, 03:45 PM

Tony Fryklund meets the Anderson elbow.

/end thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnpUkneMSWE

muhaha.

gangstax2

11-20-2007, 03:45 PM

Royler Gracie and Eddie Bravo disagree with you. :lol:

'preciate it, cuh. oh, what a one-sided debacle this has become! :lol:

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 05:11 PM

blasphemy! i wanna say that royler gracie was tapped out by an eddie bravo triangle choke. can anyone verify or squash?

uh... that wasn't in MMA. :rolleyes: i've seen big nog tap to ricco in Abu dabi and not tap to josh in pride. the mindset going to into a fight and the mindset going into a grappling is different, wouldn't u say?

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 05:18 PM

Royler Gracie and Eddie Bravo disagree with you. :lol:

Keep going dhk. So far you've changed from:

- Travis Lutter is gutless for tapping out to a triangle choke
to
- BJJ black belts should have pride and not tap out
to
- BJJ black belts with pride and heart don't tap out.

:lol:

So clearly BJJ black belts (who have pride and heart) are sustaining a lot of unnecessary injuries in MMA bouts and grappling tournaments because of their refusal to tap out. :lol:

how rarely do BJJ blacks get caught in subs in an MMA? :rolleyes:

Name Goes Here

11-20-2007, 05:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnpUkneMSWE

muhaha.

Thats nuts. A.Silva has just replaced Fedor as fighter I want to be when I grow up.

gangstax2

11-20-2007, 05:34 PM

uh... that wasn't in MMA. :rolleyes: i've seen big nog tap to ricco in Abu dabi and not tap to josh in pride. the mindset going to into a fight and the mindset going into a grappling is different, wouldn't u say?

i'm aware that it wasn't mma, but if we're arguing semantics, that gives a gracie even more of a reason not to tap. just because in mma, anything can happen, and with striking mixed in, people can give up subs that they normally wouldn't. grappling is just grappling, and it's the gracie way. so for a gracie to tap to someone else in a tournament based on an artform they've supposedly perfected, wouldn't that be considered honorless, by your account? :rolleyes:

and btw, numerous bjj blackbelts have been tapped in mma including lutter, fabio leopoldo, din thomas, etc. it's not uncommon, nor is it dishonorable.

dhk1980

11-20-2007, 05:50 PM

i'm aware that it wasn't mma, but if we're arguing semantics, that gives a gracie even more of a reason not to tap. just because in mma, anything can happen, and with striking mixed in, people can give up subs that they normally wouldn't. grappling is just grappling, and it's the gracie way. so for a gracie to tap to someone else in a tournament based on an artform they've supposedly perfected, wouldn't that be considered honorless, by your account? :rolleyes:

and btw, numerous bjj blackbelts have been tapped in mma including lutter, fabio leopoldo, din thomas, etc. it's not uncommon, nor is it dishonorable.

you're telling me that a fight is not more extreme than a grappling match? :rolleyes: geez, you're lost. by the way, i did not say anything about tapping to a sub is dishonorable. so learn to read retard. all i said that it takes pride not to tap to subs. and some of the great BJJ experts have it. ask royce, why he didn't tap to Wallid or ask Renzo why he didn't tap to Sak. perhaps, the reason why the guys u mentioned above are no where near being great fighters is b/c of the fact that they don't have the pride or the kind of mentality that some of the great fighters out there have.

ilostmydog

11-20-2007, 05:56 PM

how rarely do BJJ blacks get caught in subs in an MMA? :rolleyes:

Changing your argument once again? :lol:

You must remember, Anderson Silva is also a BJJ black belt. It's not like Lutter was facing someone whom his BJJ credentials should intimidate.

Also, BJJ blacks subbed in MMA? K, I'll shoot.

Matt Lindland RNC's Fabio Leopoldo (BJJ Black belt and 3-time Mundials champion)
Matt Lindland guillotines Travis Lutter
Frank Mir subbed Roberto Traven (2-time Mundials champ and 5th degree black belt)
Jon Fitch RNC's Roan Carneiro
Alistair Overeem guillotines Vitor Belfort
Josh Thomson subbed Daisuke 'Amazon' Sugie
Shinya Aoki triangled Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Masakazu Imanari subbed Jorge Gurgel (although he may not have been a black at the time)
JZ Calvan guillotined Rani Yahya

Pirate Eater

11-22-2007, 10:15 AM

His destruction of Fryklund was nauseatingly brilliant.

gangstax2

11-22-2007, 12:01 PM

you're telling me that a fight is not more extreme than a grappling match? :rolleyes: geez, you're lost. by the way, i did not say anything about tapping to a sub is dishonorable. so learn to read retard. all i said that it takes pride not to tap to subs. and some of the great BJJ experts have it. ask royce, why he didn't tap to Wallid or ask Renzo why he didn't tap to Sak. perhaps, the reason why the guys u mentioned above are no where near being great fighters is b/c of the fact that they don't have the pride or the kind of mentality that some of the great fighters out there have.

regardless of whether or not it's more extreme, if you're talking about pride, i would imagine that a gracie would be much more okay with losing at mma as opposed to losing at an artform that they have their ****ing NAME branded into. and no, you may not have said anything about tapping being dishonorable, but you certainly inferred it. generally, pride and honor are well associated with one another, and especially given your argument.

and retard? jesus, i haven't heard that since middle school. grow up, kiddie. :rolleyes:

Gomi

11-22-2007, 12:23 PM

Changing your argument once again? :lol:

You must remember, Anderson Silva is also a BJJ black belt. It's not like Lutter was facing someone whom his BJJ credentials should intimidate.

WRONG ! Lutters grappling pedigree far outshines Silva's.

Shiiiiiiit, I would have a black belt too if I was best friends with Nog.

gangstax2

11-22-2007, 12:46 PM

WRONG ! Lutters grappling pedigree far outshines Silva's.

Shiiiiiiit, I would have a black belt too if I was best friends with Nog.

while lutter may be a more accomplished black belt, you can't just discredit silva's because he's friends with the nog's. anderson has shown a marked improvement on the ground, going for sweeps, triangles, armbars, etc.