Did Liddell-Silva meet your expectations?

[mmafighting]

Was it worthy of the hype/wait?

[Mulligan]

Met the Hype, but not worth the wait (ie it should have happened 2 years ago)

[BruceLee]

Was it worthy of the hype/wait?

there should be a choice for it was okay. That's what I wanted to pick. Not bad but not great.

Two of the choices are basically it was better than expected.

[mmafighting]

You're right BruceLee. You got it!

[BruceLee]

My vote should be it was satisfactory/okay since that is the new choice.

[Hammerhouse]

Probably would have been a better fight (closer) two years ago. But I enjoyed it. Two guys going toe to toe for three rnds for free. I can't complain. However, I will never pick another pride fighter making his debut again.

[xxTapoutxx]

met my expectations

just because there wasnt a knockout doesnt make it a bad fight

[xxTapoutxx]

Probably would have been a better fight (closer) two years ago. But I enjoyed it. Two guys going toe to toe for three rnds for free. I can't complain. However, I will never pick another pride fighter making his debut again.

silva wasnt making his debut....

[BruceLee]

met my expectations

just because there wasnt a knockout doesnt make it a bad fight

The striking was very low level. That annoyed me more than no finish.

[Best80smovieRAD]

It didnt meet my expectations but it certainly wasnt a bad fight. It was still entertaining I felt

[niniendowarrior]

I thought it was kind of... meh. Atmosphere and hype was cool, but the actual fight, Chuck was sloppy and Wandu just kept throwing punches that were too short to make a difference. Chuck won it and Wandu showed some heart and a solid chin for this one, but it was clear in mind before the fight Chuck would win it.

[Vanno]

I thought it was an exciting fight, granted a sloppy one, which is what i pretty much expected.

[cameronb]

Only if it were a five rounder could it have been better.

[Roundhouse]

I can't believe others didn't finding it as entertaining as I did! They each landed several blasts on each other, were rocked, and fought through it.

As for the "low level striking"? Have you not seen these guys before? This is what they do, and they're good at sloppy striking.

The two things that really stood out to me were Chuck's accuracy with his punching and Wandy's solid chin. Chuck landed many shots square on the button and Wandy kept coming. As he's shown many times in the past, Wandy's able to regroup quickly after being rocked.

If you haven't guessed already, I thought the fight was outstanding. I had always predicted Chuck would win, prior to waffling recently and picking Silva. Although dissapointed that Chuck won, both guys put on a great show.

[moriarty]

Good fight, but Chucky basically knew he had it midway through the 3rd round and mailed it in from that point. The last takedown basically to lay on him an ensure he didn't get a lucky punch struck me of someone desparate to avoid a loss ... rather than a guy who should have been going for the finish at that point.

[fightfan]

like others have stated shoulda happened 2-3 years ago

[celluliteradio]

Where'd Wand's crazy, overwhelming aggressive style go? The Zangief punches don't work well while backing up for most of the rounds. If you're down two rounds, at least go for the crazy ending, dude! You might get lucky! And does he even train Muay Thai anymore? From what I remember in the all access, they said he had a "boxing" instructor.

And if they ever do Wand vs Rampage 3, they should bring in Yuji Shimada as a surprise referee. amirte guyz

[Lakers0411]

I think chuck showed he was the better striker. Wandy didn't clinch. I'll never understand it.

[New_Mexico]

I thought it was a great fight

[allmotorking]

it was an awesome fight...loved it that they both let it all out and traded punches.

what is with all this it should have happened 2 years ago...shoulda, coulda, woulda...it happened tonight and it lived up to the hype unlike chuck/rampage 2

[BruceLee]

it was an awesome fight...loved it that they both let it all out and traded punches.

what is with all this it should have happened 2 years ago...shoulda, coulda, woulda...it happened tonight and it lived up to the hype unlike chuck/rampage 2

After a couple days pass by to get over the excitement, then things will calm down.

This was in no way a classic like Silva-Rampage 2. I'll probably watch it again once when it comes out on DVD but this won't be at the top of my list of fights I would recommend to someone who is just getting into MMA.

[Podslapper]

I can't believe others didn't finding it as entertaining as I did! They each landed several blasts on each other, were rocked, and fought through it.

As for the "low level striking"? Have you not seen these guys before? This is what they do, and they're good at sloppy striking.

The two things that really stood out to me were Chuck's accuracy with his punching and Wandy's solid chin. Chuck landed many shots square on the button and Wandy kept coming. As he's shown many times in the past, Wandy's able to regroup quickly after being rocked.

If you haven't guessed already, I thought the fight was outstanding. I had always predicted Chuck would win, prior to waffling recently and picking Silva. Although dissapointed that Chuck won, both guys put on a great show.

Took the words right out of my mouth. This was one of the better fights I've seen this year. I was a little drunk I'll admit, but I was on the edge of my seat the entire fight. I couldn't have asked for a better perfomance from these two. It more than lived up to the hype for me. I just wish it would've gone five rounds.

[KnockOut]

Some of you dudes are absolutely crazy. What more do you want from a fight? You had both guys with pretty much their careers on the line go out there and bang the hell out of each other for 3 rounds. The ONLY possible criticism I could see as being justifiable is that Wand didn't come more aggressive for the last half of the 3rd when it was clear he had lost the fight, but he had taken dozens of solid shots from one of the hardest hitters in MMA at that point, it's not like he was running from him. You can't compare that with Cro Cop's lousy quitter performance against Kongo for example. This fight couldn't have possibly been any better, unless it had ended in a KO. Xome of ya'll should really get over your fickleness.

Low level striking? LMAO give me a break. Two monsters trying to break each others' faces. That's all I need. If you can't get with that go watch boxing.

[BruceLee]

Some of you dudes are absolutely crazy. What more do you want from a fight? You had both guys with pretty much their careers on the line go out there and bang the hell out of each other for 3 rounds. The ONLY possible criticism I could see as being justifiable is that Wand didn't come more aggressive for the last half of the 3rd when it was clear he had lost the fight, but he had taken dozens of solid shots from one of the hardest hitters in MMA at that point, it's not like he was running from him. You can't compare that with Cro Cop's lousy quitter performance against Kongo for example. This fight couldn't have possibly been any better, unless it had ended in a KO. Xome of ya'll should really get over your fickleness.

Low level striking? LMAO give me a break. Two monsters trying to break each others' faces. That's all I need. If you can't get with that go watch boxing.

I prefer K-1 GP Kickboxing if I want to see good techinque and not blocking with the face techique. Silva-Liddell was a good fight but that was about it for me.

I was much more excited about the GSP domination of Hughes.

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

The card definitely met all my expectations. Chuck/Wandy could make any card. It was everything I expected. Two sluggers giving it their all. It boiled down to Chucks reach and his more accurate punches. Wandy has a ton of heart though, and he showed a great chin.

Hughes/GSP was a textbook performance by GSP. He is a GREAT fighter.

Machida proved to be a top 5 LHW, he dominated Soko and shot down his myth. Soko has zero ground skills. Machida is an excellent, well rounded fighter. He is a methodical machine.

Im a fan of Guillard but he doenst at all belong in the UFC. He is an excellent striker when not carried away for a KO like tonight. His ground game is null. He needs to make his mark in the WEC and he is young enough to make it to the UFC one day. I loved the **** talking Clementi did afterwards. He is right though, Guillard needs BJJ. The talent is there.

[Thumpin]

After a couple days pass by to get over the excitement, then things will calm down.

This was in no way a classic like Silva-Rampage 2. I'll probably watch it again once when it comes out on DVD but this won't be at the top of my list of fights I would recommend to someone who is just getting into MMA.

I agree that this is in no way a classic like Silva-Rampage 2. Fights like those are hard to come by, and when they do, they are great to see. One of the greatest ever fights that should be considered a classic, although it is not considered to be a good example technically sound fighting, was the TUF 1 Bonnar/Griffin. A perfect fight to end the program that put the UFC on the map. Things may have been different (for the world of MMA) if that fight were a snooze humpfest. Classics come in all forms. This is still a classic because we finally got to see these two fight....better than Bonnar/Griffin, but nowhere close to Wandy/Rampage 2. Someone who is just getting into MMA wouldn't really know much about Wandy, and might recognize Chuck from watching Entourage, so you're right...I wouldn't show this fight either (unless it had ended in a whopping KO).

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

After a couple days pass by to get over the excitement, then things will calm down.

This was in no way a classic like Silva-Rampage 2. I'll probably watch it again once when it comes out on DVD but this won't be at the top of my list of fights I would recommend to someone who is just getting into MMA.

Not a classic? What are you smoking Brucie?

[BruceLee]

Im a fan of Guillard but he doenst at all belong in the UFC. He is an excellent striker when not carried away for a KO like tonight. His ground game is null. He needs to make his mark in the WEC and he is young enough to make it to the UFC one day. I loved the **** talking Clementi did afterwards. He is right though, Guillard needs BJJ. The talent is there.

Melvin's confidence is considerably down to. He tries to be cocky but it is a fake confidence now.

He doesn't have that swagger that he had before the Stevenson fight and the coke incident.

He is almost afraid to go on the ground and get in a submission war which is effecting his standup game as well. Happens alot in the fight game though, you get manhandled a couple times and all your confidence is gone.

He needs to take on lesser competiton at this point. I knew Clementi was a bad matchup since Clementi's never been KOed only TOed in something like 40 fights and is a submission machine and big at 155.

[BruceLee]

Not a classic? What are you smoking Brucie?

It wasn't though. Of course I was watching it with the sound off. When I did turn the sound on Goldberg and Rogan were making it sound like the greatest fight in the history of MMA.

That wasn't the Wanderlie of old and Chuck, well I wish he would have just tried to finish. His going for the takedown with 15 seconds left was disappointing and something that the Chuck of old would not have done.

It was a good fight but not in the Silva-Rampage class.

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

Melvin's confidence is considerably down to. He tries to be cocky but it is a fake confidence now.

He doesn't have that swagger that he had before the Stevenson fight and the coke incident.

He is almost afraid to go on the ground and get in a submission war which is effecting his standup game as well. Happens alot in the fight game though, you get manhandled a couple times and all your confidence is gone.

He needs to take on lesser competiton at this point. I knew Clementi was a bad matchup since Clementi's never been KOed only TOed in something like 40 fights and is a submission machine and big at 155.

Great analysis. I think had Guillard taken his time he may have gotten the KO. He was controlling the stand up with his hands but when he stunned Clementi he got sloppy. I really think he could have stopped him. Guillard always did freak when the fight goes to the ground. Its always been his weakness. He relies too much on athleticism, rather than technique. I agree, he needs to fight at a lower level and get some wins.

[Thumpin]

That wasn't the Wanderlie of old and Chuck, well I wish he would have just tried to finish. His going for the takedown with 15 seconds left was disappointing and something that the Chuck of old would not have done.

The "Chuck of old" would have never opened a 3rd round with a takedown....he was allegedly, according to the pundits, a one-trick pony with a heavy gorilla punch, and people criticized him for it. :rolleyes: So he's expanding his game...he was checking leg kicks, throwing kicks, was excellent with his accuracy, and was in good shape for the fight. He tried to finish the fight multiple times, and pretty much tired himself out for doing it...with about a minute left I had given up on a KO finish because neither fighter had much gas left.

Wandy looked different too...but a lot of the Pride guys do. I am left wondering how much steroids had a play in their performances in Japan. :(

[Podslapper]

It wasn't though. Of course I was watching it with the sound off. When I did turn the sound on Goldberg and Rogan were making it sound like the greatest fight in the history of MMA.

That wasn't the Wanderlie of old and Chuck, well I wish he would have just tried to finish. His going for the takedown with 15 seconds left was disappointing and something that the Chuck of old would not have done.

It was a good fight but not in the Silva-Rampage class.

Chuck's going for the takedown made the fight better for me. It was completely unexpected, and a sign that he's finally choosing to evolve as a fighter. The fight was awesome up until then, but seeing Chuck finally resort to his wrestling to win a fight made it epic.

[KnockOut]

Had Chuck taken Jardine down like that he would have won.

[Barstool Blues]

I wouldve have liked to seen this fight go five rounds. Chuck was clearly gasing and all punched out by the end of that 3rd round and while Wandy was tired himself and hurting I think in general he had the better cardio and could've pulled a knock out in a 4th or 5th round.

[Barstool Blues]

Chuck's going for the takedown made the fight better for me. It was completely unexpected, and a sign that he's finally choosing to evolve as a fighter. The fight was awesome up until then, but seeing Chuck finally resort to his wrestling to win a fight made it epic.

Not really. Chuck went for the take down because he was tiring. You notice he didn't do crap after he took Wandy down on any of the occasions lol. If this fight had been a five rounder i'm pretty sure Wandy wouldve knocked Chuck out by the end.

[ilostmydog]

If the fight were a five rounder I'm pretty sure neither guy would have exerted themselves so much that they had nothing left at the end of three rounds.

[Gomi]

I liked it

[Barstool Blues]

If the fight were a five rounder I'm pretty sure neither guy would have exerted themselves so much that they had nothing left at the end of three rounds.

My experience with watching Chuck differs. During that second bout vs Tito he was clearly tiring in that 3rd round. Tito had a chance to win that fight if he had been able to push it into the 4th or 5th round.

[jim_browski]

to have a go at chuck for doing the takedown and not risk getting ktfo is stupid. if he had gone hell for leather at teh end and got blasted ppl would be saying how he can't plan a fight and doesn't deserve to be there.

[ACIDBATHBELFORT]

If the fight were a five rounder I'm pretty sure neither guy would have exerted themselves so much that they had nothing left at the end of three rounds.

Good points. I agree, I think both men let it all go, when they threw, it was a bomb. Neither man wanted a decision.

I believe that Chuck went for the takedown because he was totally gassed. Had Wandy had the energy himself he had a good chance at possibly finishing Chuck or taking the third round with a bang.

[Dgilbert]

I enjoyed the fight, and to me you gotta give props to both guys, they both went in, let it all hang out, and gave us exactly what we wanted, a stand up fight with each giving and taking each other's best shots. I don't know how anyone could not be satisfied with this one. In the end Chuck won, so it was a nice bounce back for him. I'm obviously more of Wandy fan, but have also always enjoyed watching Chuck fight, so it was great to finally see these two hook up. I've always thought that the rules would play a huge role, my thinking was that I thought Chuck would have a great chance against Wandy in the Cage, and not much of a chance against him in the ring under pride rules. Last nights fight only enforced my opinion, as there were a couple times were chuck would've undoubtably eaten soccer kicks. I also agree that I think it's obvious that steroids was a huge factor for a lot of these Pride fighters, Wandy, and Mirko in particular didn't look nearly as big as there Pride days, and I have to wonder just how rampant the abuse was over there.

In the end the biggest winner after last nights fireworks are the UFC, they get there golden boy back in the good graces, to at least squeeze a couple more big PPV's out of him, and Wandy went in there and put on a show, and showed his balls to the wall spirit, which had to of put him over big time. So now they are both highly marketable, which only means more money for the UFC.