View Full Version : Dana White Might Be Overcompensating For His Homophobic Slur
snakerattle79
05-27-2009, 11:13 AM
http://www.cagepotato.com/video-dana-white-might-be-overcompensating-his-homophobic-slur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOwhSWe0ms&feature=player_embedded
Instead of releasing a timely, orderly stream of video blogs for UFC 98, Dana White and co. opted to do a couple before the event and then a multi-part epic afterwards. As with most multi-part epics, the majority is forgettable stuff that should have been edited out. But around the eight-minute mark in this video things get interesting when Dana White does an interview with Edge Magazine and claims that everyone from fighters to fans would be totally cool with an openly gay athlete in the UFC.
This is obviously not true, and Dana White knows it’s not true. What’s amazing is not that he says it anyway, but that he thinks pretending to be ignorant of homophobia in the world of men’s pro sports is the best way to smooth things over with the gay community. It isn’t. It’s blatant pandering, and the effect is actually worse than admitting that the world of MMA would have a tough time adjusting to an openly gay fighter.
Check Dana White’s reasoning for claiming that MMA would welcome a gay fighter with a big, burly hug and a kiss on the cheek: a) grappling is kind of homoerotic to start with, so dudes who do it are cool with gays, and b) the fighters in MMA are all really nice guys. And the fans, that 18-34 male demographic that is so revered for its tolerance and acceptance of all things gay? They wouldn’t care either.
As an attempt to placate the people he offended with his Loretta Hunt blog, this is a miserable failure because it asks them to go along with a story that they know, from experience, to be total bull****. These are the people who can’t get married in most of the U.S., can’t join the military without keeping part of their identity a closely-guarded secret, and White is telling them that the UFC and its fans would accept them with a good-natured slap on the ass.
Look around at pro football, baseball, basketball, and boxing. Then tell me where the openly gay athletes are. There are undoubtedly gay men in all those sports, and probably at this very moment in the UFC as well, but they know the sporting world isn’t ready to accept them yet.
If Dana White really wants to ingratiate himself to the gay community he shouldn’t try to sell them on the lie that the UFC is somehow more accepting than the rest of the sports world and mainstream American culture in general. He should instead tell them that that’s the version of the UFC he’d like to have someday – the version where no one cares who you sleep with after the fight (even if it’s Jenna Jameson) as long as you deliver inside the cage. But that’s not the world we live in just yet, and no one’s going to be grateful to Dana White for pretending that it is.
djwolford
05-27-2009, 11:34 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/GeorgeStPierre.jpg/200px-GeorgeStPierre.jpg
Just sayin'
sportsgenius86
05-27-2009, 11:54 AM
What the hell is he supposed to say?
I wouldn't consider it overcompensating simply because, had that video blog never happened, he still would've been forced to respond the way he just did.
You can't get that question and turn around and say "Nope. No gay athlete would be welcome here by anyone." That would be the dumbest move you could make.
Skinny
05-27-2009, 11:58 AM
Dana and everybody here seems to have a really, really short memory:
http://i43.tinypic.com/jqsupj.jpg
Roundhouse
05-27-2009, 11:59 AM
Just another example of how Dana can never do the right thing according to some people.
The guy is regularly trashed for being outspoken and brash.
This time he takes the PC route and tries not to offend a group he recently accidentally offended. Now he's got keyboard warriors questioning his manhood because of it? Seriously?
Skinny
05-27-2009, 12:07 PM
Geezus christmas!
Everybody needs to chill.
We all know that TUF has the gay demographic locked in. DG told us that a looooong time ago. This whole situation is getting Grease Gate level out of hand.
Now back to Diego - where the hell has he been lately - I forget?
ilostmydog
05-27-2009, 12:56 PM
Shad Smith is openly gay and no one really gives a ****.
NeverTapxx
05-27-2009, 01:09 PM
Leave Dana Alone!!! He Doesn't Deserve This, And It Is Starting To Piss Me Off, And You Don't Want Me To Get Pissed Off.
sportsgenius86
05-27-2009, 01:13 PM
You Don't Want Me To Get Pissed Off.
http://www.coderetard.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/super-retard.JPG
Snapcat
05-27-2009, 01:24 PM
[QUOTE=snakerattle79;557507]http://www.cagepotato.com/video-dana-white-might-be-overcompensating-his-homophobic-slur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOwhSWe0ms&feature=player_embedded
Instead of releasing a timely, orderly stream of video blogs for UFC 98, Dana White and co. opted to do a couple before the event and then a multi-part epic afterwards. As with most multi-part epics, the majority is forgettable stuff that should have been edited out. But around the eight-minute mark in this video things get interesting when Dana White does an interview with Edge Magazine and claims that everyone from fighters to fans would be totally cool with an openly gay athlete in the UFC.
This is obviously not true, and Dana White knows it’s not true. What’s amazing is not that he says it anyway, but that he thinks pretending to be ignorant of homophobia in the world of men’s pro sports is the best way to smooth things over with the gay community. It isn’t. It’s blatant pandering, and the effect is actually worse than admitting that the world of MMA would have a tough time adjusting to an openly gay fighter.
Check Dana White’s reasoning for claiming that MMA would welcome a gay fighter with a big, burly hug and a kiss on the cheek: a) grappling is kind of homoerotic to start with, so dudes who do it are cool with gays, and b) the fighters in MMA are all really nice guys. And the fans, that 18-34 male demographic that is so revered for its tolerance and acceptance of all things gay? They wouldn’t care either.
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Actually, he didn't say that. What he said was that MMA is the least homophobic sport, you can't have a homophobe in MMA because they would be turned away by the grappling. However, there are guys that hate to wrestle and won't learn it, so you could have homophobes actually.
Actually, he's said the same things for years....Most notably in his Playboy interview in 2008.
So there goes the whole "he's doing it to smooth things over" theory....He's maintained the same stance since well before the incident with Hunt.
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2008/08/14/dana-white-tells-playboy-about-his-atheism-steroid-use-and-love/
cchjd
05-27-2009, 04:48 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/GeorgeStPierre.jpg/200px-GeorgeStPierre.jpg
Just sayin'
Exactly. Dana is right. No one cares. The 170 champ is a closeted homosexual and is loved by many UFC fans. Sexuality isn't an issue.
telerion
05-27-2009, 05:45 PM
Besides, the 18-34 demographic is tolerant of homosexuality, at least relative to their elders.
Even those that did care would probably take the Miss California "that's not how I was raised" route. Few would be openly hostile.
I've said before how interesting it would be to have any openly homosexual fighter just tear through the division and take the title...
I'd be entertained by that...:)
I've heard rumours, from very reliable sources, of certain fighters being gay.
I've heard rumours, from very reliable sources, of certain fighters being gay.
I was going to state that your ass might not be a "very reliable source" for the rest of us, but that would just be tasteless...
So I decided not to say it.
sportsgenius86
05-27-2009, 07:05 PM
I bet Randy's gay.
It's all starting to make sense now.
I was going to state that your ass might not be a "very reliable source" for the rest of us, but that would just be tasteless...
So I decided not to say it.
hahahahaha, well played. :D
wgrapple
05-27-2009, 09:16 PM
I'm surprised that some people still don't understand that Dana is a good guy but doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about him. If you've ever been to a bar, gay bars don't count Loot ;) then you've heard at least a few guys and at least one girl call someone a *** ****ing around.
Sticks and stones...
I'm surprised that some people still don't understand that Dana is a good guy but doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about him. If you've ever been to a bar, gay bars don't count Loot ;) then you've heard at least a few guys and at least one girl call someone a *** ****ing around.
Sticks and stones...
What can I say....They play better music, and my sleeveless Affliction ****s are a huge hit. :)
wgrapple
05-27-2009, 09:39 PM
What can I say....They play better music, and my sleeveless Affliction ****s are a huge hit. :)
Who's your friends? ;)
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/mma/blog/affliction.jpg
sportsgenius86
05-27-2009, 09:42 PM
I have a couple friends that met Dana at a campus bar the weekend of UFC 96.
To put this in perspective, the dude left his surely penthouse suite hotel room and went to campus, bypassing at least 20 closer, more exclusive bars, to drink with the fans at a jam packed campus bar and took pictures with who knows how many people (at least four of my friends).
Who does that? David Stern would never do that. Roger Goodell would never do that. Gary Bettmann would never do that. Bud Selig would never do that.
He might curse like a sailor and do plenty of ridiculously stupid stuff sometimes, but the guy knows how to rile his people up. He knows how to excite his fans and give them what they want.
Just watch the blog videos. Letting kids get pictures with their favorite fighters, signing autographs, posing for photos, getting that disabled veteran into whatever UFC show he wants to get into, signing autographs in the middle of the night for people who had to have their copy of Undisputed when it first came out.
He can be one hell of an abrasive asshole at times, but there's a reason that he (and his company) are growing fast.
It's like he's taken every single negative criticism toward major sports commissioners and turned it on its ass.
Watching those blogs, its pretty obvious that he's at least trying to make sure everybody who spent their money on making his company successful at least gets an equal return.
What can I say....They play better music, and my sleeveless Affliction ****s are a huge hit. :)
lol....I meant to say "shirts," but I missed the "r" and the profanity filter just went ahead and assumed. :)
To be clear, I meant SHIRTS....
wgrapple
05-27-2009, 09:55 PM
lol....I meant to say "shirts," but I missed the "r" and the profanity filter just went ahead and assumed. :)
To be clear, I meant SHIRTS....
LMAO Freudian slip? ;)
ukemigrant
05-28-2009, 12:04 AM
lol....I meant to say "shirts," but I missed the "r" and the profanity filter just went ahead and assumed. :)
To be clear, I meant SHIRTS....
That's a relief - I was working through all my curse words and nothing was matching :) Phew!
That's a relief - I was working through all my curse words and nothing was matching :) Phew!
You mean you've never heard of "sleeveless Affliction $hits?"
18 posts in 4 years?....I'm just honored to be the subject of one. :)
We need some more lurkers to post more often...This place is slowing down a bit.
ilostmydog
05-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Besides, the 18-34 demographic is tolerant of homosexuality, at least relative to their elders.
Even those that did care would probably take the Miss California "that's not how I was raised" route. Few would be openly hostile.
I don't like same fighters, I prefer opposite fighters.
Skinny
05-28-2009, 03:09 AM
Besides, the 18-34 demographic is tolerant of homosexuality, at least relative to their elders.
Even those that did care would probably take the Miss California "that's not how I was raised" route. Few would be openly hostile.
That's right T. People haven't been hostile towards gays since the movie Stripes:
The name's Francis Soyer.
But everybody calls me Psycho.
Any of you guys call me Francis,
and I'll kill you.
And I don't like nobody
touching my stuff!
So just keep your meat hooks off.
If I catch any of you guys
in my stuff, I'll kill you.
Also, I don't like
nobody touching me.
Now, any of you homos...
...touch me, and I'll kill you.
crazedwombat
05-30-2009, 09:45 AM
I have a couple friends that met Dana at a campus bar the weekend of UFC 96.
To put this in perspective, the dude left his surely penthouse suite hotel room and went to campus, bypassing at least 20 closer, more exclusive bars, to drink with the fans at a jam packed campus bar and took pictures with who knows how many people (at least four of my friends).
Who does that? David Stern would never do that. Roger Goodell would never do that. Gary Bettmann would never do that. Bud Selig would never do that.
He might curse like a sailor and do plenty of ridiculously stupid stuff sometimes, but the guy knows how to rile his people up. He knows how to excite his fans and give them what they want.
Just watch the blog videos. Letting kids get pictures with their favorite fighters, signing autographs, posing for photos, getting that disabled veteran into whatever UFC show he wants to get into, signing autographs in the middle of the night for people who had to have their copy of Undisputed when it first came out.
He can be one hell of an abrasive asshole at times, but there's a reason that he (and his company) are growing fast.
It's like he's taken every single negative criticism toward major sports commissioners and turned it on its ass.
Watching those blogs, its pretty obvious that he's at least trying to make sure everybody who spent their money on making his company successful at least gets an equal return.
well said my friend.
Cbear
05-30-2009, 10:04 AM
Trigg posed for naked gay photos years ago.
Baroni, pretty much the same.
The only person who doesn't think Gsp is gay is Gsp.
Someone said Tiki Goshen is gay; I don't know.
Team Sugar Rashad
grabs for balls like its candy.
Team Jackson nipple pinches like its candy.
Lyoto and Andy dance, dance, dance,
Chute Box loves to cuddle.
Randy can't stay married so might be in denial about....something.
Bob Sapp has a signature dildo and disco album.
Fighters drinking body fluids.
Seriously......nobody thought something was horribly wrong before??
BulldogWrestler
05-30-2009, 10:05 AM
I dont have a problem with what he said.
Again, this is crappy journalism aimed to "attack the big guy."
If Atencio had said the same thing, no one would be writing an article about it.
This article is one that was written to throw Dana under the bus, and if they couldn't find something he said about gays, they would have found something else to write about with the same end result.
BulldogWrestler
05-30-2009, 10:06 AM
Trigg posed for naked gay photos years ago.
Baroni, pretty much the same.
The only person who doesn't think Gsp is gay is Gsp.
Someone said Tiki Goshen is gay; I don't know.
Team Sugar Rashad
grabs for balls like its candy.
Team Jackson nipple pinches like its candy.
Lyoto and Andy dance, dance, dance,
Chute Box loves to cuddle.
Randy can't stay married so might be in denial about....something.
Bob Sapp has a signature dildo and disco album.
Fighters drinking body fluids.
Seriously......nobody thought something was horribly wrong before??
None of the people in the above post are gay. Just sayin'.
Cbear
05-30-2009, 10:09 AM
None of the people in the above post are gay. Just sayin'.
Where did it come out that Tiki was gay? Maybe it was just all the ball popping he and Rampage were doing. GSP....well.....whatever. And everyone knows a bulldog will screw anything that moves plus anything that doesn't including a preference for tree stumps. So...I remain unconvinced.
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