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Big Boss
11-13-2003, 01:35 AM
Who would you have given the fight too? Me I go for Yoshida and I think he would have killed Jacksson in the final!!!

robbypark
11-13-2003, 01:40 AM
Who would you have given the fight too? Me I go for Yoshida and I think he would have killed Jacksson in the final!!!

You're kiddine me about the Jackson comment right?

I agree that a case can be made for Yoshida winning the fight against Silva, but had he been given the decision and moved on to face Rampage, he would have been destroyed. Not because of his fighting skill, but because he was literally dead after his fight with Silva. I mean did you see the crimson mask he was wearing?

Big Boss
11-13-2003, 01:46 AM
That is true.... but put aside the fact that he was bleedin'..... he is a better fighter then Jacksson. If they fight in the future id go for Yoshida no doubt!

themunchies
11-13-2003, 01:53 AM
Yoshida proved he was a great fighter at Final Conflict but it's questionable that he's better than jackson. It would for sure be a fight I'd like to see though.

sabre
11-13-2003, 05:47 AM
part of the judging criteria in pride is damage points. and attempts to finish. silva came very close in the first round to getting a triangle choke on yoshida and i did not see where any of yoshida's attempted submissions came even close. vanderlei was striking from the bottom and working for submissions from his guard. then round 2 could easily go to vanderlei judging by the damage he dished out. at the end of the fight vanderlei looked like he had never been in a fight other then the sweat. on the other hand yoshida was beaten up.


sabre

Lefty
11-14-2003, 03:34 PM
part of the judging criteria in pride is damage points. and attempts to finish. silva came very close in the first round to getting a triangle choke on yoshida and i did not see where any of yoshida's attempted submissions came even close. vanderlei was striking from the bottom and working for submissions from his guard. then round 2 could easily go to vanderlei judging by the damage he dished out. at the end of the fight vanderlei looked like he had never been in a fight other then the sweat. on the other hand yoshida was beaten up.


sabre

perfectly put sabre. i think silva won hands down . yosh did better than expected, but silva was the aggresser and did the damage. too many personal feelings and silva haters made it a closer fight than it was.

sleekdom
11-14-2003, 09:41 PM
Silva won the fight although a strong case could have been made for Yoshida. I think DSE doesn't want to get into any more controversy so their judges were more biased towards Silva this time.

deanmalenko
11-14-2003, 09:57 PM
It was a good fight and I was hopinh Yoshida was going to beat that dummy Silva.

claymore
11-14-2003, 10:10 PM
It was a very close fight. Seeing as though Pride is in Japan, I was surprised that it wasn't at least a split decision.

If I was a judge I would have voted for Yoshida just because I wanted to see the upset.

just Brian
11-15-2003, 12:08 AM
It was a good fight and I was hopinh Yoshida was going to beat that dummy Silva.

Now we're talking.

Iron Maiden
11-15-2003, 01:02 AM
It certainly was a damn good fight...as far as exciting...it was the fight of the night.

Lefty
11-15-2003, 01:24 PM
It was a very close fight. Seeing as though Pride is in Japan, I was surprised that it wasn't at least a split decision.

If I was a judge I would have voted for Yoshida just because I wanted to see the upset.


you'd make a pretty ****ty judge then wouldn't you? you must have been a judge at the nog/ricco fight.

robbypark
11-15-2003, 03:34 PM
hey, I probably would have voted for Yoshida too..... :wink:

creampuff
11-15-2003, 04:08 PM
I would have gave it to Silva because I wanted to see Silva fight Rampage or Chuck in the finals. After that performance though, Yoshida has become my favorite fighter. Just look at the avatar!

Brazuca
11-15-2003, 05:17 PM
I would have gave it to Silva because I wanted to see Silva fight Rampage or Chuck in the finals. After that performance though, Yoshida has become my favorite fighter. Just look at the avatar!

I would give it to Silva, but then again, I didn't see the fight yet. :lol:
I'm looking forward to it though!

Brazuca
11-15-2003, 05:32 PM
It was a very close fight. Seeing as though Pride is in Japan, I was surprised that it wasn't at least a split decision.

If I was a judge I would have voted for Yoshida just because I wanted to see the upset.


you'd make a pretty ****ty judge then wouldn't you? you must have been a judge at the nog/ricco fight.

Oh, yeah. That's another interesting fight. I've seen it two weeks after it happened and was following the threads saying that Ricco was ripped off on that fight. I looked at it closely, biased, actually, in favor of Ricco.
And to tell you the truth, after watching the tape, I also think Nog won that fight. As I said on my previous life on this board: "May be it has something to to with my BJJ background, when you know that you can be dominated by a fighter when you're on top, being on top doesn't mean that you're controlling the fight and attempting to win it".
These are just my devaluated cents anyway, enough was said about that fight.

robbypark
11-15-2003, 05:34 PM
Nogueira did not win that fight. Granted, Nog works extremely well from the bottom, but that's exactly where Ricco wanted Nog. Ricco pounded Nog from the top and escaped every single submission attempt.

Brazuca
11-15-2003, 05:38 PM
Nogueira did not win that fight. Granted, Nog works extremely well from the bottom, but that's exactly where Ricco wanted Nog. Ricco pounded Nog from the top and escaped every single submission attempt.
That's exactly my point: the only thing he actually did was try to escape from the submission attempts, we was being attacked and was not the aggressor. But then again, that's just me. :D

porkstar
11-15-2003, 05:41 PM
Nog could have won that fight, but seeing as though you are brazilian(no offense at all) don't you think you're a little biased towards Nog on your decision?

Brazuca
11-15-2003, 05:49 PM
Nog could have won that fight, but seeing as though you are brazilian(no offense at all) don't you think you're a little biased towards Nog on your decision?
Of course I take the fact that I'm Brazillian into consideration...all the time. :lol:
But no, that's my honest oppinion, no matter what. I'm naturally racional and not too much emotional when it comes to fight results, period.

Of course the mirror image argument could hold, right ? That always happens when you put too much stress on someone else ethnic background, country of origin etc. I personally prefer Isaac Asimov attitude: "I refused to be more sharply defined than a human being" (or something like that :D ).

themunchies
11-15-2003, 06:06 PM
I'm a white man but that doesn't mean I always cheer for the white guys. In fact I always cheer for Sak even though he's Asian.

Just pointing out that I'm not racist at all.

Iron Maiden
11-15-2003, 07:35 PM
I think the word "racist" is thrown around WAYYYY to often these days...

jamesK1
04-28-2008, 04:21 AM
Who would you have given the fight too? Me I go for Yoshida and I think he would have killed Jacksson in the final!!!
profound or simple..

jimboh
04-28-2008, 05:41 AM
profound or simple..

WTF?!?!

Why bring up a not particularly great thread for your 1st post?
Bizarre.

Scarborough
04-28-2008, 08:27 AM
This whole thread is bizarre....

cameronb
04-28-2008, 10:42 AM
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Anytime
04-28-2008, 10:49 AM
good old Robby Park.. RIP

jamesK1
04-28-2008, 12:15 PM
Who would you have given the fight too? Me I go for Yoshida and I think he would have killed Jacksson in the final!!!
profound or simple.. like lots of stuff.

LuckyD
04-28-2008, 03:52 PM
profound or simple.. like lots of stuff.

............what?

JC-Freakhead
04-28-2008, 04:01 PM
...you have now entered the twilight zone.

Ash
04-28-2008, 04:02 PM
I always liked Brazuca, whatever happened to him/her?

Scarborough
04-28-2008, 06:43 PM
Everything I say is a lie, in fact, I'm even lying right now.

Gomi
04-28-2008, 07:20 PM
Holy necropost batman !