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Cbear
11-01-2004, 08:06 PM
I don't see it. Wrestling is in one of those down periods and there isn't a new superstar who really captures casual fans attention to spend serious money on the product. We might be 10 years away from a big turnaround, hard to say. The bad thing for WWE is that Vinces victory in killing the biggest competitors means he killed the talent training ground to a large degree. There are still Indies but you can't rob talent that people recognize and make an immediate impact like he did forever.

All of Vinces recent illnesses and surgeries is cause for concern too. Shane isn't being used that much, but Stephanie and HHH are being groomed for the big spot running the show. Scary.

guyincognito
11-01-2004, 08:24 PM
All of Vinces recent illnesses and surgeries is cause for concern too. Shane isn't being used that much, but Stephanie and HHH are being groomed for the big spot running the show. Scary.
Unless a really great superstar comes around I can't see anything that those two could do. If they haven't done it so far it isn't going to happen. Killing off the competition was the worse thing that could have happened to them. They used to thrive when competing against WCW.

What I can see happening down the road is combining the two companies again. It's assinine right now to split the roster and try and create competition when everyone knows there isn't any. With their roster they should cut down to an hour show per week or one solid two hour show. They may not like it but sooner or later they may have to do it.

What are the rating like anyways. I'm assuming they've plummeted since the WWF/WCW days. If WWF starts crumbling it would only be sweet justice for all the things Vince did in his day. Wrestling was sure more enjoyable with the mystique and the regional promotions.

Another thing that may be hurting them is people catching onto the fact that their careers may not last very long and it's way too punishing on the body. The ridiculous lengths they go to nowadays is not needed to tell a story. Foley started and Hardy Boyz pushed it even further. Every time I hear a sickening chair shot I'm wondering why they bother. They might have toned it down a little but they need to stop doing it. Do it like once a year so it means something when it happens. Almost seems like the norm now and that can't be good for wrestlers.

kai
11-01-2004, 09:58 PM
There's one way for the WWE to turn things around:

Hire me as a writer.

guyincognito
11-01-2004, 11:00 PM
There's one way for the WWE to turn things around:

Hire me as a writer.
I can't take anything you say seriously with that sig. :-D

BruceLee
11-01-2004, 11:50 PM
Wrestling is a dead dinosaur. Ever since Kayfabe was broken it's gotten sloppy, more cartoonish and lame.

If Vince were smart, he'd sieze the opportunity to branch into MMA. Keep the wrestling going in WWE but also have a WWE MMA branch. With the WWE's infrastructure, and cable dominance Vince could instantly put WWE MMA on the map and popularize the sport to mainstream America and put MMA on a level to compete with Pride and K-1 worldwide.

I believe this will happen. Basically the UFC and Dana will get left in the dust. The UFC needs repackaging anyway with the obstructed cage and punch and judy production, so why not just scrap the whole brand and start over with WWE MMA.

What I envision happening is two things.
1. Dana and the UFC will start to get bigger in the U.S. Not huge but bigger. Vince will come in and create his own WWE MMA and capitalize off of all of Dana's hard work or buy the UFC for peanuts and throw Dana out on the street.
2. Pride and K-1 will continue to become popular worldwide and start to infiltrate the US fighting market. Vince will see MMA as a competitor to his similar product and therefore move into WWE MMA.

Yeah it sucks for the UFC and Dana. But that's business. I really think WWE MMA is the surefire way for MMA to take off in America. I highly doubt that the UFC will be able to achieve mainstream status, they simply don't have the resources or firepower. Sad but true.

destro713
11-01-2004, 11:57 PM
I sort of doubt it would be so easy for the UFC to be wiped out. In America, Ultimate Fighting isn't just the name of the organization, it's the name of the sport. Say "mixed martial arts" and most people will have no idea what you're talking about, but say "ultimate fighting" and people instantly know.

BruceLee
11-02-2004, 12:02 AM
Yeah but it has a negative conotation to it. Ultimate Fighting everyone thinks of the cage and brutal. Mainstream America isn't in to that.

Sort of like how Rap never took off with the mainstream but they repackaged it as Hip Hop and that became huge.

The fans of Ultimate fighting right now would have no problem calling it MMA. Mainstream America who could care less about Ultimate Fighting, aren't hurt by the change in name since they don't care about Ultimate Fighting anyway.

guyincognito
11-02-2004, 09:02 AM
Wrestling is a dead dinosaur. Ever since Kayfabe was broken it's gotten sloppy, more cartoonish and lame.

If Vince were smart, he'd sieze the opportunity to branch into MMA. Keep the wrestling going in WWE but also have a WWE MMA branch. With the WWE's infrastructure, and cable dominance Vince could instantly put WWE MMA on the map and popularize the sport to mainstream America and put MMA on a level to compete with Pride and K-1 worldwide.
Two reason why I don't think it will happen. If wrestling is doing poorly Vince may not have the resources and he may not be around much longer. Since the MMA market is quite small he won't put resources into something that will take time to make money in. Unless the fights are fixed he knows he can't market fighters in the hope they'll win. Anything can happen and people will know if fights get fixed. That will kill it.

Another thing is the XFL. That may have soured him into entering ventures other than wrestling. Didn't he try his hand at boxing as well? I see him sticking to what he knows best, wrestling. And right now he's not doing a great job with that.

Jeremy
11-02-2004, 09:21 AM
The product sucks and the fans are spoiled.

NewEnglandMMAFan
11-03-2004, 12:48 PM
The product sucks and the fans are spoiled.

I agree. Plus they got to stop shoving Randy Orton down people's throats. When watching Raw I just can't believe he can beat up anyone.

Benoit's push started off just right. They ended it at the right time. But atleast I can see Benoit really beating up someone.