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  • Jake > Hitman

    11 45.83%
  • Jake < Hitman

    11 45.83%
  • Chiesa > LaQuinta

    7 29.17%
  • Chiesa < LaQuinta

    12 50.00%
  • Max > Pat

    11 45.83%
  • Max < Pat

    6 25.00%
  • Brookins > Oliveira

    8 33.33%
  • Brookins < Oliveira

    12 50.00%
  • Lawrence > Cofer

    18 75.00%
  • Lawrence < Cofer

    1 4.17%
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  1. #221

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    I think Kampmann's offensivie boxing technique is pretty good - it's his ability to handle the long-term sustained pressure of strikes from the clinch that I find suspect. The guy actually oddly seems more comfortable on the ground on his back, moreso than his back against the cage.

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    Kampmann has the problem of backing straight up constantly, which is a no-no. Someone told me that the Danish kickboxers, similar to Thai style, don't utilize much lateral movement, so it could just be a flaw in the way he was taught to kickbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIcon View Post

    Whack a mole........whack a Gump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeMMAFan View Post
    I think Kampmann's offensivie boxing technique is pretty good - it's his ability to handle the long-term sustained pressure of strikes from the clinch that I find suspect. The guy actually oddly seems more comfortable on the ground on his back, moreso than his back against the cage.
    Makes sense. Kampmann does have some solid Jiujitsu. If your back is on the ground you can try for a sweep or throw your legs up to threaten for a triangle or armbar. Your opponent also has to posture up in order to do most attacks and that gives an opening. But if your back is on the cage, BJJ skills wont help as much. Trying to use your knees opens up takedowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbear View Post
    mmajunkie.com 1,628 attendance and $195,250 gate.

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/29040/tuf-...er-paydays.mma


    Headliners Martin Kampmann ($84,000) and Jake Ellenberger ($42,000) were the top earners at The Ultimate Fighter Live Finale this past weekend.

    MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today obtained the list of disclosed pays from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

    The event took place June 1 at The Pearl at Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas. The main card aired on FX following prelims on FUEL TV and Facebook.

    The total disclosed payroll for the event was $355,000.

    Kampmann defeated fellow welterweight contender Jake Ellenberger via knockout in the headliner. In the co-headliner, Michael Chiesa ($16,000) was named the "TUF: Live" winner after choking out fellow finalist Al Iaquinta ($8,000).

    The full list of paydays included:

    Martin Kampmann: $84,000 (includes $42,000 win bonus)
    def. Jake Ellenberger: $42,000

    Mike Chiesa: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. Al Iaquinta: $8,000

    Charles Oliveira: $32,000 (includes $16,000 win bonus)
    def. Jonathan Brookins: $15,000

    Max Holloway: $12,000 (includes $6,000 win bonus)
    def. Pat Schilling: $6,000

    Justin Lawrence: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. John Cofer: $8,000

    Daron Cruickshank: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. Chris Tickle: $8,000

    Myles Jury: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. Chris Saunders: $8,000

    Sam Sicilia: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. Cristiano Marcello: $8,000

    Joe Proctor: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
    def. Jeremy Larsen: $8,000

    Erik Perez: $12,000 (includes $6,000 win bonus)
    def. John Albert: $8,000*
    * - Although not officially disclosed, UFC president Dana White stated on fight night that Albert will receive his $8,000 win bonus because of the controversial loss.

    Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special discretionary bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.

    For example, as previously reported, UFC officials handed out additional $40,000 TUF Live Finale bonuses to Kampmann ("KO of the Night"), Chiesa ("Submission of the Night") and Cofer ("Fight of the Night"). Lawrence, in fact, got $80,000 after earning "KO of the Night" and "Fight of the Night" checks.

    In other words, the above figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Kampmann has the problem of backing straight up constantly, which is a no-no. Someone told me that the Danish kickboxers, similar to Thai style, don't utilize much lateral movement, so it could just be a flaw in the way he was taught to kickbox.
    I don't know of that's true or not, but if you mean Thai as in "Muay Thai", his instinct shouldn't be to "back up" but to "clinch". Heck, even if he gets taken down because of it, it sure as heck better than getting beat up against the fence.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordZardoz View Post
    Makes sense. Kampmann does have some solid Jiujitsu. If your back is on the ground you can try for a sweep or throw your legs up to threaten for a triangle or armbar. Your opponent also has to posture up in order to do most attacks and that gives an opening. But if your back is on the cage, BJJ skills wont help as much. Trying to use your knees opens up takedowns.

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    I agree-but this only highlights his lack of clinchwork.

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    Ratings are in.

    1.0 for the FX main card and 165,000 avg for fuel prelims

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