Haye and Vitali sign the praises of Dos Santos' boxing.

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And lol @ lord zar saying he's every bit a one trick pony like Paul Harris. Cause leg locks are just as narrow as boxing, a f*cking SPORT

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vitali is trolling abviously.lol he would murder jds.he is the greatest boxer of all time.

[LordZardoz]

And lol @ lord zar saying he's every bit a one trick pony like Paul Harris. Cause leg locks are just as narrow as boxing, a f*cking SPORT

Calling it a one trick pony may be an exaggeration, but it is a very dimensional attack, and I have not seen JDS even attempt a serious attack by any other means. Compare this to the Korean Zombie, who was attacking with punches, kicks, flying knees, takedowns from the clinch, ground and pound, and submissions. Dialing it back a whole lot, consider even Stipe Miocic, who tried to box, and then moved on to takedowns for ground and pound. The only time I have seen JDS go for any kind of ground and pound is on a staggered opponent, not one he chose to take down himself.

Lets concede that comparing the boxing attack to Palhares's leglock attacks is not entirely fair. A better comparison would be Shinya Aoki's BJJ. I would argue that Aoki's BJJ is a more flexible attack than Dos Santos's boxing because at least Shinya Aoki's mode of attack works from top position or bottom position on the ground. The boxing skillset of JDS is only effective when standing at or just beyond arms length.

(JDS does have a much superior defensive skillset to cover his weak areas than Aoki though. JDS can defend a take down, and Aoki cannot really take a punch for shxt).

Based on what I have seen from him, at some point JDS is going to be matched against an opponent who can either outstrike him (maybe Overeem) or who can overcome his takedown defense (maybe Daniel Cormier). He may even simply end up against someone who can defend against boxing well enough to cause Dos Santos to gas out badly and just get handled. Assuming the fight that JDS eventually loses at least makes it to the 2nd and is not a 7 second freak KO, he is going to be made to look just as bad as Mir looked at UFC 146.

Now, I could be wrong. It could be that his other attack sets are also strong, but the advantage on his boxing vs his opponents striking defense is so great that any other attack is a waste of time. It is possible, but I seriously doubt it.

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[reamark3]

Calling it a one trick pony may be an exaggeration, but it is a very dimensional attack, and I have not seen JDS even attempt a serious attack by any other means. Compare this to the Korean Zombie, who was attacking with punches, kicks, flying knees, takedowns from the clinch, ground and pound, and submissions. Dialing it back a whole lot, consider even Stipe Miocic, who tried to box, and then moved on to takedowns for ground and pound. The only time I have seen JDS go for any kind of ground and pound is on a staggered opponent, not one he chose to take down himself.

Lets concede that comparing the boxing attack to Palhares's leglock attacks is not entirely fair. A better comparison would be Shinya Aoki's BJJ. I would argue that Aoki's BJJ is a more flexible attack than Dos Santos's boxing because at least Shinya Aoki's mode of attack works from top position or bottom position on the ground. The boxing skillset of JDS is only effective when standing at or just beyond arms length.

(JDS does have a much superior defensive skillset to cover his weak areas than Aoki though. JDS can defend a take down, and Aoki cannot really take a punch for shxt).

Based on what I have seen from him, at some point JDS is going to be matched against an opponent who can either outstrike him (maybe Overeem) or who can overcome his takedown defense (maybe Daniel Cormier). He may even simply end up against someone who can defend against boxing well enough to cause Dos Santos to gas out badly and just get handled. Assuming the fight that JDS eventually loses at least makes it to the 2nd and is not a 7 second freak KO, he is going to be made to look just as bad as Mir looked at UFC 146.

Now, I could be wrong. It could be that his other attack sets are also strong, but the advantage on his boxing vs his opponents striking defense is so great that any other attack is a waste of time. It is possible, but I seriously doubt it.

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JDS is very very fast. I don't see him getting caught in the clinch with overeem. Hunt would not be able to get inside. Cormier would get tagged trying to set up his takedown.

Cain on the otherhand is a good match up. I think JDS and Cain may trade the belt back and forth for a while.

JDS is not a one trick pony. He has good defensive wrestling. He also took Carwin down.

[LordZardoz]

JDS is very very fast. I don't see him getting caught in the clinch with overeem. Hunt would not be able to get inside. Cormier would get tagged trying to set up his takedown.

Cain on the otherhand is a good match up. I think JDS and Cain may trade the belt back and forth for a while.

JDS is not a one trick pony. He has good defensive wrestling. He also took Carwin down.

I saw that fight live. At that point I think JDS's hands were sore and Carwin was so beaten that JDS wanted to rest his hands for a moment. Even though it was a good takedown, by that point I do not think Carwin could have defended any kind of takedown from anyone. And once JDS had that takedown, he did not do much with it.

By the same token, I have also seen Shinya Aoki throw kicks and utilize a Muay Thai clinch (vs Satoru Kitaoka at Genki Desu Ka 2011 ). While it is a good sign, it is not really an indication that it is an effective line of attack for Aoki. Hell, I actually like Aoki's striking more than JDS's take down skills.

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