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    Quote Originally Posted by 69love View Post
    How long do you think it will be before prices for bjj collapse. It would be nice to train and not have to mortgage the house.
    I wouldn't count on it anytime soon. Demand is growing thanks to MMA and the UFC especially. One thing that can help a little is more students become black belts every day. Usually those guys open other schools which provides some competition with rival schools. That said, at this point there is so much uncovered geography in a lot of place that these schools can just move into unserved/underserved areas and grab people that wouldn't make the trip elsewhere. I would guess that bjj prices will remain high relative to other MA's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69love View Post
    How long do you think it will be before prices for bjj collapse. It would be nice to train and not have to mortgage the house.
    Check out a Judo club. Seriously. Do it.

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    Judo is bjjs slightly less useful cousin. At least you'll be harder to take down. I'd probably see if i could learn wrestling somewhere. Maybe train with the local high school or division 3 college? You can usually find boxing cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19nate79 View Post
    Judo is bjjs slightly less useful cousin. At least you'll be harder to take down. I'd probably see if i could learn wrestling somewhere. Maybe train with the local high school or division 3 college? You can usually find boxing cheap
    It really depends on what you're looking for. If you plan on competing in MMA, you can never have too much wrestling experience. If you're a grown adult, just looking to train for fun and get some exercise, and maybe compete a bit on the weekends, I'm not sure wrestling is for you. I've yet to see any adult, recreational wrestling competitions (assuming you can even find an adult wrestling class to begin with). Judo's good because it's well-rounded- a bit of wrestling mixed with submissions. May not be the best if you're looking to compete in MMA, but great for self defense and to get some exercise.

    Not saying it's better or worse than BJJ either, just a lot cheaper.

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    You know what's great for self defense? Shooting lessons. I'll **** up any judo/BJJ/wrestling/MT expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19nate79 View Post
    Judo is bjjs slightly less useful cousin. At least you'll be harder to take down. I'd probably see if i could learn wrestling somewhere. Maybe train with the local high school or division 3 college? You can usually find boxing cheap
    Like wahoo said. "Useful" for what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo08 View Post
    It really depends on what you're looking for. If you plan on competing in MMA, you can never have too much wrestling experience. If you're a grown adult, just looking to train for fun and get some exercise, and maybe compete a bit on the weekends, I'm not sure wrestling is for you. I've yet to see any adult, recreational wrestling competitions (assuming you can even find an adult wrestling class to begin with). Judo's good because it's well-rounded- a bit of wrestling mixed with submissions. May not be the best if you're looking to compete in MMA, but great for self defense and to get some exercise.

    Not saying it's better or worse than BJJ either, just a lot cheaper.
    i love judo but i don't seem to be able to take the falls any more. i'm about at the end of my mma "career" i think. i wish this had been around when i was younger, but i don't recall seeing it anywhere but california in the 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telerion View Post
    Like wahoo said. "Useful" for what?
    self defense or mma. if i could only train one thing it would be bjj, fortunately that isn't the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19nate79 View Post
    self defense or mma. if i could only train one thing it would be bjj, fortunately that isn't the case.
    Personally, I think judo is more useful for general self-defense. Focus more on quick, decisive actions and emphasizes staying on your feet. Wrestling is very good too, but judo has the added benefit of submissions.

    For mma, I would take bjj for sure, but for the kind of things that happen day to day (a stranger grabs you or a belligerent friend has to be subdued) I think judo is more useful. This is probably because every self-defense situation I've been in has been effectively solved with judo and I'm not sure they would have been as effectively solved with techniques more commonly practiced in BJJ. In two situations, I was grabbed by an angry individual who I would guess wanted to put me on the ground and hit me. Both times tha person ended up taking a quick ride, after which they didn't want to fight. The other times have been bigger belligerent drunks trying to hurt other people. Both times I stepped in, tied them up (judo grip fighting skills), and settled them down.

    Obviously none of these was an immediate life/death moment (Thumpin has covered those already).

    I suppose this could be a moot point because some BJJ clubs work on takedowns and gripfighting regularly and some judo clubs spend a lot of time on ground work. In the end, the rule sets of the sports are what make them different. Like you, I love both sports. Take both if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19nate79 View Post
    i love judo but i don't seem to be able to take the falls any more. i'm about at the end of my mma "career" i think. i wish this had been around when i was younger, but i don't recall seeing it anywhere but california in the 90s.
    Unfortunately, the falls are starting to get to me too. I don't mind being uke for demonstration purposes, but after a day of throwing drills, my body feels like it's going to come apart.

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