Guns Vs. Smoking Vs. Alcohol

[19nate79]

Intent plays a role in this comparision...I suspect that deaths resulting from the use of tabacco and alcohol would not be classified as intentional. On the other hand many / most deaths resulting from the use of guns could be classified as intentional.

And I don't accept the premise that "The fact is that a death is a death."

well half of gun deaths are suicides

assault weapons have been used for 385 deaths since the ban was lifted.

the 50 caliber barret? 4. ever.

[19nate79]

Now this is the argument I don't buy. It's the conspiracy theory. The big, bad government is going to take away all our rights as gun owners.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

This is a question of redrawing lines. The president is proposing to make assault rifles illegal for the general public. Polls show an appetite for this. Obama has the support of the majority to act on that point.

It does not mean the government, or the public, will then ban shotguns or pistols. There would be too much outrage over this, so it won't happen (and, no, the storm troopers aren't going come to your house in the middle of the night and seize your weapons).

This is a matter of redefining what's reasonable for American citizens to be carting around. Most people don't want assault rifles in their neighborhood. There's that oft-cited counter-argument, why shouldn't you be allowed to carry around a rocket launcher? Fine, fine, you're not planning to kill anyone with it, you just like going out on weekends and demolishing brick walls of abandoned buildings. So why not allow rocket launchers on the streets?

As for cigarettes, same logic applies. The government says no more smoking in restaurants. Many smokers reacted to that with, "The next thing you know we won't be allowed to smoke in our own homes." Still waiting for that to happen, other than in one small municipality in California a few years ago...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-4761130.html

you can buy a tank if you want to.

as to the other weapon you cite, you just need a class 3 license
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Class-3-Firearms-License

[19nate79]

tell you what, i'll get one this year and report back. don't know what i'd do with any of that **** but i'll be allowed to buy anything my little rambo heart can think of. suck it.

[spasgur]

Another ####ing gun thread?

Guns keep MMAf.net alive!

[Spectre]

Guns keep MMAf.net alive!

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[danl08]

The point in this thread is what causes more deaths? If death is so terrible then shouldnt you go after the biggest unnatural causes first?

Excellent point because we have done nothing over the past 20 years to curb smoking and drunk driving.

[19nate79]

maybe being a fat fatty fat ass should be banned first. WAY more deaths from that. more deaths than we currently count imo, since we don't count kidney or liver failure as a fat ass related death.

let's use those stats though and see how worried i should really be of guns.
round up to 12000 deaths,
divide that by 200 million guns (really 300)....
now let's say that each of those deaths was from a ten person firing squad
i get .06%

if i were to look at only rifles that number would be laughably low, given the fbi report.
assault rifles aren't even on the radar.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...e-data-table-8


here's an article on switzerland:
http://world.time.com/2012/12/20/the...re-that-works/

^^^that seems to work. not sure about limiting how many guns you can have.

[19nate79]

holy **** 700+ deaths from being punched kicked etc...
more than rifles and shotguns combined

[19nate79]

Hello there. We do not have a smoking or alcohol ban "in the works", just like we do not have a gun ban "in the works". What we do have is serious restriction and regulation on smoking and alcohol.

true but shooting while in your car is already banned, and there is no shooting or noshooting section at bob evans either. those bases are covered.

[DirtySteve]

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