Playstation 4 (live video reveal now)

[niniendowarrior]

Apparently, the Lighting Returns game is going to be for both systems (and the old systems?!??!).

PS3 and Xbox 360 (and PS4, I suppose).

[ZeGerman]

It all boils down to getting more money. For big developers, they see used game sales as a legitimate way of getting the game without really compensating the developer. I don't know if the hyperbole where it costs them a crap ton of money is true... but for small-time developers and indie folks, this could literally kill them because they stake their survival over making money on the game and they don't have a big safety net to rely on.

Either way, used game sales are being funneled into the same group as pirated ones. This is the first time I've heard of one of the major hardware console manufacturers doing something about it.

Are indie developers really relying on physical media? The kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns as well as Minecraft and Ios games tell me the Indiemarket has never been better off than today. I know for every Minecraft there are hundreds of games that fail, but quality seems to rise to the top most of the time with the exception of Japanese titles (but that is a different topic).

[BulldogWrestler]

PS3 and Xbox 360 (and PS4, I suppose).

Yeah, but I think PS4 is getting a specific Final Fantasy. Completely different and new game (rumored to be based off of 6 - but they always make that rumor whenever a new one is released).

[niniendowarrior]

Are indie developers really relying on physical media? The kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns as well as Minecraft and Ios games tell me the Indiemarket has never been better off than today. I know for every Minecraft there are hundreds of games that fail, but quality seems to rise to the top most of the time with the exception of Japanese titles (but that is a different topic).

I was particularly talking about indie devs who hook up with publishers. Many new start ups had to hook up with publishers and get very one-sided deals. Indiegogo and kickstarter is a phenomenon that started, but the real impact of that has yet to be seen, in my opinion. In the long term... that is.

[Ash]

Part of the problem with Kickstarter as a whole is credibility. There's a big difference between Tim Schafer promising a new game and someone you've never heard of who might not deliver.